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Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

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Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

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Wow, Outlook actually tells you they blocked you? My email (custom gmail domain btw) just ends up in the Spam folder of outlook clients with no notification at all.

That's a different issue. You're usually not notified of spam designations, but bounces (where the mail server completely refuses to accept your email) do usually receive a notification. If you're designated as both (for example if you keep sending email that bounces) you'll get blackholed and wont receive any bounce notification either.

Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

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Wow, Outlook actually tells you they blocked you? My email (custom gmail domain btw) just ends up in the Spam folder of outlook clients with no notification at all.

That's a different issue. You're usually not notified of spam designations, but bounces (where the mail server completely refuses to accept your email) do usually receive a notification. If you're designated as both (for example if you keep sending email that bounces) you'll get blackholed and wont receive any bounce notification either.

When I used to self-host my emails, GMail would "accept" mails then drop them. Microsoft was kind enough to tell me they dropped them but getting out of the blacklists was a pain.

Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

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Wow, Outlook actually tells you they blocked you? My email (custom gmail domain btw) just ends up in the Spam folder of outlook clients with no notification at all.

I self host. Over the years, I've had both situations with outlook. I've tried many things.

As it happens, I noticed my mails have gone through just fine in the last months, at least to companies using Microsoft services without me doing anything specific, after I threw the towel with Outlook. I did switch VPS providers almost a year ago, though to a provider that I expect to be more filtered (ovh).

Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

#7

Wow, Outlook actually tells you they blocked you? My email (custom gmail domain btw) just ends up in the Spam folder of outlook clients with no notification at all.

That's a different issue. You're usually not notified of spam designations, but bounces (where the mail server completely refuses to accept your email) do usually receive a notification. If you're designated as both (for example if you keep sending email that bounces) you'll get blackholed and wont receive any bounce notification either.

An advantage of landing in spam is that the user still has a choice and is in control. Rejecting outright is a "lalalala I can't hear youu!!" type of stupid situation that only big providers can get away with, without the users realizing their bigcorp is the one with delivery issues

Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

#8

Wow, Outlook actually tells you they blocked you? My email (custom gmail domain btw) just ends up in the Spam folder of outlook clients with no notification at all.

Have you tested with: https://www.mail-tester.com/

Thanks, I was missing a DKIM on my mailcow setup. 10/10 now :-)

Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

#9
I run a small transactional email provider (https://mailpace.com), our IPs are very rarely added to blocklists- but we are very strict on what we allow through our service, and surprisingly we’ve had no long term delivery issues with any of the big providers.

So thanks to the federated/decentralized design of email, is totally possible to be part of the network without any special privileges.

We are sending millions of emails every day though, which is quite different to sending a couple hundred personal emails a week. If you’re running this on a cloud host, expect to be blocked by default. However if you can find a small vps provider you’ll have better luck on sending yourself.

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