Near death, (maybe) explained?
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Near death, (maybe) explained?
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#2God exists.
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Mom is evil.
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RD in Zion, and his praise in Jerusalem;
102:22 When the people are gathered together, and the kingdoms, to serve the LORD.
102:23 He weakened my strength in the way; he shortened my days.
102:24 I said, O my God, take me not away in the midst of my days: thy years are throughout all generations.
102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.
102:26 They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garme
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Do You get bored, God?
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Whatchu wanna do? I'll cheer You up! Highlander is Yer favorite movie, You said. :-)
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ill show them to you at home, wife," said Sancho; "be content for the present; for if it please God that we should again go on our travels in search of adventures, you will soon see me a count, or governor of an island, and that not one of those everyday ones, but the best that is to be had."
"Heaven grant it, husband," said she, "for indeed we have need of it. But tell me, what's this about islands, for I don't understand it?"
"Honey is not for the mouth of the ass," returned Sancho; "all in go
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#3I don't understand the title of this post. After reading the article, I don't see a workable explanation presented which accounts for the features of the phenomenon which is described.
I recently read quite a few reports of NDEs for my own personal interest and noted something interesting. Not all NDErs report real events. In one case I read about, a schoolboy who briefly "died" at school reported seeing empty classrooms as he moved down the corridor at his school. Of course school was in and the classrooms full at the time. He knew that himself, but what he saw was different to what was actually happening. This contrasts with the reports in the article where there is apparent independent confirmation of actual details and events.
The reports of people blind from birth having what seem to be visual OBEs are intriguing (it is reported that people blind from birth do not have a conception of what it is like to see, and in fact they do not even "see black").
Even after spending some time reading about the phenomenon I was unable to draw any conclusion whatever. The reports are highly perplexing regardless of your perspective.
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#4This is an extremely misleading title. The post is a rather long excerpt from a book. Most of the information it contains is more than 10 years old and will be familiar to anyone who has ever been curious enough to read about the subject. The only relatively recent information concerns production of NDE like phenomena through artificial cerebral stimulation (magnetic or with electrodes). This has also been widely reported online over the past few years.
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#5Unfortunately, the author is heavily biased in favor of the soul/spirit explanation, as can be seen by the sudden change of tone when he starts talking about "Materialistic" scientists.
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#6I don't understand the title of this post. After reading the article, I don't see a workable explanation presented which accounts for the features of the phenomenon which is described. I recently read quite a few reports of NDEs for my own personal interest and noted something interesting. Not all NDErs report real events. In one case I read about, a schoolboy who briefly "died" at school reported seeing empty classr…
I said maybe as I was not sure of the validity of the conclusions - people here on HN are typically pretty good at cutting through the content to find whether or not it is even close to accurate or useful.
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#7The title of the Salon article should be "Near death, unexplained."
It has a number of interesting case studies and is very grippingly written, but though it offers theory after theory, it (attempts to) debunk them all, then ends with maybe we're seeing something from another life (hereafter, nirvana, whatever you want to call it).
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#8There are a lot of mentions to studies and not a single reference. Quoting from the text: "Studies indicate", "studies [...] have shown", "studies have revealed", "studies indicate" "Studies show" "some of these studies demonstrates" "studies also suggests"
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#9I don't understand the title of this post. After reading the article, I don't see a workable explanation presented which accounts for the features of the phenomenon which is described. I recently read quite a few reports of NDEs for my own personal interest and noted something interesting. Not all NDErs report real events. In one case I read about, a schoolboy who briefly "died" at school reported seeing empty classr…
I said maybe as I was not sure of the validity of the conclusions - people here on HN are typically pretty good at cutting through the content to find whether or not it is even close to accurate or useful.
What, exactly, does the article conclude, in your opinion? (I'm genuinely asking)
The strongest formulation I can come up with is: "NDE studies also suggest that after physical death, mind and consciousness may continue in a transcendent level of reality that normally is not accessible to our senses and awareness."
However, nowhere in the article does the article's author offer a single/summary explanation of NDEs/OBEs, from what I saw.
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#10> At one point in this experience, said Maria, she found herself outside the hospital and spotted a tennis shoe on the ledge of the north side of the third floor of the building. She was able to provide several details regarding its appearance, including the observations that one of its laces was stuck underneath the heel and that the little toe area was worn. Maria wanted to know for sure whether she had “really” seen that shoe, and she begged Clark to try to locate it.
> Quite skeptical, Clark went to the location described by Maria—and found the tennis shoe. From the window of her hospital room, the details that Maria had recounted could not be discerned. But upon retrieval of the shoe, Clark confirmed Maria’s observations. “The only way she could have had such a perspective,” said Clark, “was if she had been floating right outside and at very close range to the tennis shoe. I retrieved the shoe and brought it back to Maria; it was very concrete evidence for me.”
This sounds like something you'd see in a chain email...