Leaving the Cloud: Cloud Computing Isn't for Everyone
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#2Not just the cost, but you are not under the mercy of someone else ToS and you are in a full control of your system, the only justification against on-premises are either you don’t have the proper infrastructure like a reliable internet access or the capital cost upfront.
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#3It's what I've been saying all along.
Also in almost all cases microservices aren't needed.
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#4Not just the cost, but you are not under the mercy of someone else ToS and you are in a full control of your system, the only justification against on-premises are either you don’t have the proper infrastructure like a reliable internet access or the capital cost upfront.
You are always at the mercy of someone else's ToS, even if you own your hardware.
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#5I think this is a very interesting discussion. Also, the pure hardware costs are one thing, but in terms of training and hiring people, will it still paint the same picture? Will you be able to detect and patch security threats as fast? What about utilising archive storage to save costs?
But yes there are nice to see multiple perspectives on whether or not to use the cloud. Does there exist a good managed service to provision on-prem infrastructure in an IaC-matter?
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#6Not a new page, from back in July I think
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#7Not just the cost, but you are not under the mercy of someone else ToS and you are in a full control of your system, the only justification against on-premises are either you don’t have the proper infrastructure like a reliable internet access or the capital cost upfront.
This works both ways, though. If something goes wrong with an AWS managed service, they are the responsible party. You have someone to sue.
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#8I think this is a very interesting discussion. Also, the pure hardware costs are one thing, but in terms of training and hiring people, will it still paint the same picture? Will you be able to detect and patch security threats as fast? What about utilising archive storage to save costs? But yes there are nice to see multiple perspectives on whether or not to use the cloud. Does there exist a good managed service to…
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#9I think what is often missed is that many thought it's a good idea to just move stuff from baremetal to cloud VMs as is and then wondering about the bills.
IMHO cloud starts to really pay off for cloud native workloads on serverless offerings with FinOps as part of the culture. If you don't have cloud native workloads and don't want to develop such systems, then better keep your sysadmins and stay away from the clouds. There's absolutely no reason to ride the hype train, use whatever works best for the particular use case.
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#10While such post are always mentioning costs as a benefit, it would be good to mention that cloud costs are operational expenses and can be deducted completely in the year they occurred while owning hardware is a capital expense and can only be partially deducted over a period of time (like 3-5 years?). As far as I know this has some tax saving implications. Yes, on prem might still be cheaper but it would still be good to mention it in such posts.