Qdrant 1.7.0
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Qdrant 1.7.0
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#4Yeah Heap's Law is a bit of a bitch in these situations. Like you'll definitely make sure those vectors are 64 bit if you plan of indexing a proper large number of documents.
I'd also advise caution leaning too much into the vector interpretation of these algorithms, as it's largely viewed as a quaint historical artifact that was bit of a dead end (e.g. as in Croft, Metzler & Strohman 7.2.1)
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#6I came across two questions. Perhaps some kind folks with more experience can shed some light on these qdrant use cases.
1. for embeddings for use cases such as LLM chat bots, I split internal data into chunks. Those chunks are then vectorized and stored. Alongside the entry itself, I stored the original chunk in metadata. That way, a lookup can immediately feed that into the LLM prompt context, without lookup in a secondary data store by some ID. Feels like a hack. Is that a sensible use case?
2. I resorted to using `fastembed` and generated all embedding client-side. Why is it that qdrant queries, in the ordinary case (also showcased a lot in their docs, e.g. [0]), expect a ready-made vector? I thought the point of vector DBs was to vectorize input data, store it, and later vectorize any text queries themselves?
Having to do all that client-side feels besides the point; for example, what if two separate clients use separate models (I used [1])? Their vectorizations will differ. I thought the DB is the source of truth here.
In any case, fascinating technology. Thanks for putting it together and making it this accessible.
[0]: https://qdrant.tech/documentation/quick-start/#run-a-query
[1]: `sentence-transformers/all-MiniLM-L6-v2`, following https://qdrant.tech/documentation/tutorials/neural-search-fa...
Re: Qdrant 1.7.0
#7Qdrant is the vectordb that ChatGPT and Grok use (e.g. when you add docs to a custom GPT or tweets in Grok) https://twitter.com/simonw/status/1722011967886688696
Does Qdrant look like a winning horse then?
Was about to use Weaviate for a project today and this gives me pause. Anyone have some strong opinions? pg_vector also been on my radar recently. Qdrant vs Weaviate I know is partially a rust vs go topic.
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#8Qdrant is the vectordb that ChatGPT and Grok use (e.g. when you add docs to a custom GPT or tweets in Grok) https://twitter.com/simonw/status/1722011967886688696
Interesting they both do. Does Qdrant look like a winning horse then? Was about to use Weaviate for a project today and this gives me pause. Anyone have some strong opinions? pg_vector also been on my radar recently. Qdrant vs Weaviate I know is partially a rust vs go topic.
Faiss and Pinecone are at the top (disclosure: I'm from Pinecone). But Faiss isn't really a full-fledged vector DB. Pinecone is a managed option which is out of the question for a company like Twitter and maybe for you (although you should consider it). After that comes Chroma in third, and then Qdrant, and then Weaviate.
Chroma has a big following by virtue of being plugged into the AI ecosystem in SF. Qdrant seems to be doing great work but their location in Europe is probably not helping.
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Interesting they both do. Does Qdrant look like a winning horse then? Was about to use Weaviate for a project today and this gives me pause. Anyone have some strong opinions? pg_vector also been on my radar recently. Qdrant vs Weaviate I know is partially a rust vs go topic.
As another signal, check out this report by Streamlit, which shows the popularity of different vector databases among Streamlit apps: https://state-of-llm.streamlit.app/#third Faiss and Pinecone are at the top (disclosure: I'm from Pinecone). But Faiss isn't really a full-fledged vector DB. Pinecone is a managed option which is out of the question for a company like Twitter and maybe for you (although you should cons…