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Epic vs. Google Trial Verdict, a Win for All Developers

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Re: Epic vs. Google Trial Verdict, a Win for All Developers

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Post by lern_too_spel »

I don't understand all the hate that Epic gets. They give away games for free, they don't block alternative clients for their store, and they fight the good fight against Google and Apple. Sure, all of these benefit them, but they benefit users as well. If it weren't for this lawsuit, you can be sure we wouldn't have https://developer.android.com/about/versions/12/features#aut...

Re: Epic vs. Google Trial Verdict, a Win for All Developers

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Post by throwawa14223 »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #2

I don't understand all the hate that Epic gets. They give away games for free, they don't block alternative clients for their store, and they fight the good fight against Google and Apple. Sure, all of these benefit them, but they benefit users as well. If it weren't for this lawsuit, you can be sure we wouldn't have https://developer.android.com/about/versions/12/features#aut...

At least among my friend group they are hated for poaching games and turning them into exclusives.

Re: Epic vs. Google Trial Verdict, a Win for All Developers

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Post by lern_too_spel »

throwawa14223 wrote: post #3
lern_too_spel wrote: post #2

I don't understand all the hate that Epic gets. They give away games for free, they don't block alternative clients for their store, and they fight the good fight against Google and Apple. Sure, all of these benefit them, but they benefit users as well. If it weren't for this lawsuit, you can be sure we wouldn't have https://developer.android.com/about/versions/12/features#aut...

At least among my friend group they are hated for poaching games and turning them into exclusives.

Third party clients flatten that mole hill.

Edit: like legendary

Re: Epic vs. Google Trial Verdict, a Win for All Developers

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Post by austin-cheney »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #2

I don't understand all the hate that Epic gets. They give away games for free, they don't block alternative clients for their store, and they fight the good fight against Google and Apple. Sure, all of these benefit them, but they benefit users as well. If it weren't for this lawsuit, you can be sure we wouldn't have https://developer.android.com/about/versions/12/features#aut...

Its all the same evil. The name of the game is vendor lock-in to a consolidated platform, also known as a walled garden. Google gives a lot away for free as well. When you access these applications are the applications the products or are you the product? To me that determines where the evil occurs as it drives motivation.

Re: Epic vs. Google Trial Verdict, a Win for All Developers

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Post by upon_drumhead »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #4
throwawa14223 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least among my friend group they are hated for poaching games and turning them into exclusives.

Third party clients flatten that mole hill. Edit: like legendary

What do you mean by third party clients? GOG Galaxy? Steam?

Re: Epic vs. Google Trial Verdict, a Win for All Developers

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Post by klipklop »

austin-cheney wrote: post #5
lern_too_spel wrote: post #2

I don't understand all the hate that Epic gets. They give away games for free, they don't block alternative clients for their store, and they fight the good fight against Google and Apple. Sure, all of these benefit them, but they benefit users as well. If it weren't for this lawsuit, you can be sure we wouldn't have https://developer.android.com/about/versions/12/features#aut...

Its all the same evil. The name of the game is vendor lock-in to a consolidated platform, also known as a walled garden. Google gives a lot away for free as well. When you access these applications are the applications the products or are you the product? To me that determines where the evil occurs as it drives motivation.

While not ideal, I’ll take several walled gardens over having only Google’s garden.

Re: Epic vs. Google Trial Verdict, a Win for All Developers

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Post by gnabgib »

This is very duped: "Epic vs. Google: Google Loses"-verge[0] (583 points, 5 hours ago, 517 comments), "Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app store fight"-verge[1] (222 points, 4 hours ago, 2 comments), "Epic Games wins antitrust lawsuit against Google"-wp[2] (10 points, 4 hours ago, 0 comments), "Epic Games wins Google Play Store Antitrust Suit"-wsj[3] (16 points, 4 hours ago, 7 comments), "Google's App Store Monopoly Ruled Illegal as Jury Sides with Epic"-wired[4] (3 points, 4 hours ago, 0 comments), "Google's App Store Ruled an Illegal Monopoly, as a Jury Sides with Epic Games (PDF)"-courtListener[5] (9 points, 3 hours ago, 2 comments), "Jury decides Google's Android app store benefits from anticompetitive barriers"-apnews[6] (3 points, 2 hour ago, 0 comments)

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38607424

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38607474

[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38607596

[3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38607695

[4]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38607906

[5]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38608399

[6]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38608582

Re: Epic vs. Google Trial Verdict, a Win for All Developers

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Post by mirashii »

upon_drumhead wrote: post #6
lern_too_spel wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Third party clients flatten that mole hill. Edit: like legendary

What do you mean by third party clients? GOG Galaxy? Steam?

More likely things like https://heroicgameslauncher.com/

Re: Epic vs. Google Trial Verdict, a Win for All Developers

#10

Post by supriyo-biswas »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #2

I don't understand all the hate that Epic gets. They give away games for free, they don't block alternative clients for their store, and they fight the good fight against Google and Apple. Sure, all of these benefit them, but they benefit users as well. If it weren't for this lawsuit, you can be sure we wouldn't have https://developer.android.com/about/versions/12/features#aut...

The “good fight” in this case is nothing but an attempt to “commoditize your complement”[1].

[1] https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/06/12/strategy-letter-v/

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