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The race between Intel, Samsung, and TSMC to ship the first 2 nm chip

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Re: The race between Intel, Samsung, and TSMC to ship the first 2 nm chip

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When they get below "1nm" what measure will the switch to; and will it have even less relationship with any reality?

The nm nomenclature is nominal and not an actual measurement. i It's a concept of the level of improvement. Also not what TSMC uses

https://www.pcgamer.com/intel-renames-process-nodes-intros-a...

Re: The race between Intel, Samsung, and TSMC to ship the first 2 nm chip

#4

When they get below "1nm" what measure will the switch to; and will it have even less relationship with any reality?

Intel is using angstroms, so their "2nm" node is "20A" and the "1.8nm" node is "18A". These of course still don't have any more relationship with the physical size of the transistors than previous Intel, TSMC, or Samsung nodes but it keeps it relatively clean without needing a decimal point in the name.

Re: The race between Intel, Samsung, and TSMC to ship the first 2 nm chip

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Is intel anywhere near 2? I thought they’re stuck somewhere in 7/10 land

3 and 2 from TSMC are divorced from the actual component spacing - they’re all pretty close in terms of actual technological advancements, they just don’t all use the same marketing for process names.

Re: The race between Intel, Samsung, and TSMC to ship the first 2 nm chip

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I hope Intel and Samsung will have much success, because TSMC betrayed customers by exclusively providing all top-level manufacturing capacity only to Apple and handling anyone else as a second class citizen.

Everyone else is a second class citizen. Apple brings in more than TSMC's next 3 largest customers combined.

Re: The race between Intel, Samsung, and TSMC to ship the first 2 nm chip

#10

I hope Intel and Samsung will have much success, because TSMC betrayed customers by exclusively providing all top-level manufacturing capacity only to Apple and handling anyone else as a second class citizen.

Uhhh they provide plenty to anyone who bids. Nvidia uses them.
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