Air traffic controllers pushed to the brink

FWIW Obama’s administration instituted a diversity program for ATC that gave points to people that did poorly in school and haven’t had a job recently and penalized people with pilots licenses or military ATC experience and other qualifications. The ATC was considered “too white”.

In essence they worked backwards to figure out how to hit their arbitrary diversity targets without considering the lives of everyone that flies. Yes, they put your life at risk to fulfill an anti-racism agenda. This is criminal.

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Post by tayo42 » Sun, Dec 10, 2023, 12:15 AM UTC

Well that was worrying to read since I flight through San Diego coming up.

Why are the budgets low and why is our government running atc like a best buy durring holiday season?

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Post by DiscourseFan » Sun, Dec 10, 2023, 12:16 AM UTC

Very scary indeed. I think for the first time in my life I will be a little on edge flying in the US. You always hear that flying is the safest mode of public transport--well, if this is the state of the ATC, we're definitely in trouble. And you know there won't be any real change until hundreds of people die needlessly...I just hope it won't be my flight.

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Post by DiscourseFan » Sun, Dec 10, 2023, 12:17 AM UTC

nemo44x wrote: post #4

FWIW Obama’s administration instituted a diversity program for ATC that gave points to people that did poorly in school and haven’t had a job recently and penalized people with pilots licenses or military ATC experience and other qualifications. The ATC was considered “too white”. In essence they worked backwards to figure out how to hit their arbitrary diversity targets without considering the lives of everyone that…

This would be very interesting to look into if you cited a source.

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Post by Racing0461 » Sun, Dec 10, 2023, 12:17 AM UTC

nemo44x wrote: post #4

FWIW Obama’s administration instituted a diversity program for ATC that gave points to people that did poorly in school and haven’t had a job recently and penalized people with pilots licenses or military ATC experience and other qualifications. The ATC was considered “too white”. In essence they worked backwards to figure out how to hit their arbitrary diversity targets without considering the lives of everyone that…

Agreed on this (the DEI part, not the obama part. It's much bigger than that.). Previously it was a mutual understand that ATC wouldn't get snarky with pilots in th air until they are on the ground as pilots have the final say.

Lately on youtube, i've seen nothing but bad behavior from ATC. And let's just say, there were certain qualities that were common between the incidents.

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Post by tux3 » Sun, Dec 10, 2023, 12:17 AM UTC

tester756 wrote: post #3

I don't know why, but archive.is is not loading for me

They're in a fight with Cloudflare over technical details, if you use CF as DNS that's why

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Post by hakdbha » Sun, Dec 10, 2023, 12:18 AM UTC

nemo44x wrote: post #4

FWIW Obama’s administration instituted a diversity program for ATC that gave points to people that did poorly in school and haven’t had a job recently and penalized people with pilots licenses or military ATC experience and other qualifications. The ATC was considered “too white”. In essence they worked backwards to figure out how to hit their arbitrary diversity targets without considering the lives of everyone that…

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