Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union
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Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union
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#2"After agreement of a common date within the EU, we recommend doing the transition in 1 to 2 steps, depending on the member state:
Step 1: All EU countries abolish the clock change to DST in spring and remain on the clock time they use in winter. For those countries whose recommended time zone is their current standard time, no further steps need to be taken.
Step 2: Those countries whose recommended time zone is not yet their current standard time, additionally turn back their clocks one last time by one hour in autumn, in order to adopt their recommended time zone as their new standard time."
I really wish we could do this in the US.
Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union
#3"After agreement of a common date within the EU, we recommend doing the transition in 1 to 2 steps, depending on the member state: Step 1: All EU countries abolish the clock change to DST in spring and remain on the clock time they use in winter. For those countries whose recommended time zone is their current standard time, no further steps need to be taken. Step 2: Those countries whose recommended time zone is not…
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#4(1) abolishing daylight savings time is great and should have been done years ago.
(2) the proposed time zones are really impractical, not necessarily in principle, but in their specific implementation. Germany-Netherlands in different time zones is strange, Dublin and Belfast in different time zones is stupid, Athens and Crete in different time zones is absurd.
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#6This actually kinda sucks. I like not changing clocks. But I'm not happy about moving the timezones around.
I'm in The Netherlands and after this Germany will be in a different time zone than me. That's not cool.
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#7This proposes that The Netherlands switch to WEST/UTC. There is already no clear consensus on whether to stay on permanent summertime (+2) vs wintertime (+1), and I would expect the switch to UTC to be even more challenging to adopt. Interestingly we switched from Amsterdam time (+0:20) to Berlin time (+1) during WW2, so going to +0 would mean a much earlier noon. Additionally policymakers have been saying to favour keeping the time with our major export market (Germany) in sync, so that wouldn’t fly with this proposal. Personally I don’t care that much for what offset is chosen, as long as we abolish DST.
Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union
#8(1) abolishing daylight savings time is great and should have been done years ago. (2) the proposed time zones are really impractical, not necessarily in principle, but in their specific implementation. Germany-Netherlands in different time zones is strange, Dublin and Belfast in different time zones is stupid, Athens and Crete in different time zones is absurd.
I agree.
National borders is quite possibly one of the worst ways to do time zones. At least in the US time zone borders were specifically chosen to run through areas of low population, so you would minimize the number of people doing, say, living in France but working in Geneva one hour ahead.
Also it's kind of odd that Ireland and Portugal are in their own little time zone, when it probably makes more sense to just sync up with all their other neighbors.
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#9After placing all of Europe on permanent winter time, going by the image provided, this proposal seeks to split Ireland's time zone from the UK's and place it a further hour earlier, thereby ensuring that the sun will begin setting at 2:30PM, and it will be pitch black out at 3:30PM in the winter, all in the name of achieving "permanent time zones as close as possible to solar time (natural time) in Europe."
Well done.
Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union
#10"After agreement of a common date within the EU, we recommend doing the transition in 1 to 2 steps, depending on the member state: Step 1: All EU countries abolish the clock change to DST in spring and remain on the clock time they use in winter. For those countries whose recommended time zone is their current standard time, no further steps need to be taken. Step 2: Those countries whose recommended time zone is not…
I've never seen anyone propose moving in the opposite direction of summer time before. That seems needlessly awkward to me.