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Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and feuding

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Re: Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and feuding

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>Ms. Toner disagreed. The board’s mission is to ensure that the company creates artificial intelligence that “benefits all of humanity,” and if the company was destroyed, she said, that mission would be fulfilled.

Now we know where that came from

Re: Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and feuding

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The only specific accusation made in the article is that Sam criticized Helen Toner for writing a paper: https://cset.georgetown.edu/publication/decoding-intentions/

That says Anthropic has a better approach to AI safety than OpenAI.

Sam apparently said she should have come to him directly if she had concerns about the company's approach and pointed out that as a board member her words have weight at a time when he was trying to navigate a tricky relationship with the FTC. She apparently told him to kick rocks and he started to look for ways to get her off the board.

All of that ... seems completely reasonable?

Like I've heard a lot of vague accusations thrown at Sam over the last few days and yet based on this account I think he reacted the exact same way any CEO would.

I'm much more interested in how Helen managed to get on this board at all.

Re: Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and feuding

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>Ms. Toner disagreed. The board’s mission is to ensure that the company creates artificial intelligence that “benefits all of humanity,” and if the company was destroyed, she said, that mission would be fulfilled. Now we know where that came from

That's a bit naive, to put it mildly. It presumes that nobody else would be able to replicate the effort and that the parties that are able to replicate it would also destroy theirs after proving that it could be done. Fat chance.

Re: Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and feuding

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>Ms. Toner disagreed. The board’s mission is to ensure that the company creates artificial intelligence that “benefits all of humanity,” and if the company was destroyed, she said, that mission would be fulfilled. Now we know where that came from

That's a bit naive, to put it mildly. It presumes that nobody else would be able to replicate the effort and that the parties that are able to replicate it would also destroy theirs after proving that it could be done. Fat chance.

Indeed. The only way to retain control of the leading ship in the race is to keep it together as you steer it. If the ship disintegrates, then you're no longer in control of the leading ship, and someone else will win the race.

Re: Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and feuding

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The only specific accusation made in the article is that Sam criticized Helen Toner for writing a paper: https://cset.georgetown.edu/publication/decoding-intentions/ That says Anthropic has a better approach to AI safety than OpenAI. Sam apparently said she should have come to him directly if she had concerns about the company's approach and pointed out that as a board member her words have weight at a time when he w…

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Re: Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and feuding

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>Ms. Toner disagreed. The board’s mission is to ensure that the company creates artificial intelligence that “benefits all of humanity,” and if the company was destroyed, she said, that mission would be fulfilled. Now we know where that came from

Non-profit or not, steering the company towards non-existence isnt in the interest of the company.

Re: Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and feuding

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This claims that Anthropic founders also tried to throw Sam out before leaving. They claim three sources but not clear how strong - technically the current board could be three sources

Yeah thats an interesting statement. People leaving or wanting to get him out usually indicates that the person - altman in this case - is quite toxic. Being a toxic person yet preferred by microsoft and others indicates he’s “willing”, meaning he will do whatever they ask of him. And that’s not in the best interest of openai.
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