Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
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Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#2Here's what I don't understand.
There clearly were tensions between the for and not-for growth factions, but the Dev Day is being cited as a 'last straw'. It was a product launch.
Ilya, and the board, should have been well aware of what was being released on that day for months. They should have at the very least been privy to the plan, if not outright sanctioned it. Seems like before launch would have been the time to draw a line in the sand.
Did they have a 'look at themselves in the mirror' moment after the announcements or something?
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#3Here's what I don't understand. There clearly were tensions between the for and not-for growth factions, but the Dev Day is being cited as a 'last straw'. It was a product launch. Ilya, and the board, should have been well aware of what was being released on that day for months. They should have at the very least been privy to the plan, if not outright sanctioned it. Seems like before launch would have been the time…
>Ilya, and the board, should have been well aware of what was being released on that day for months
Not necessarily, and that may speak to the part of the Board's announcement that Sam was not candid
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#4Here's what I don't understand. There clearly were tensions between the for and not-for growth factions, but the Dev Day is being cited as a 'last straw'. It was a product launch. Ilya, and the board, should have been well aware of what was being released on that day for months. They should have at the very least been privy to the plan, if not outright sanctioned it. Seems like before launch would have been the time…
>Ilya, and the board, should have been well aware of what was being released on that day for months Not necessarily, and that may speak to the part of the Board's announcement that Sam was not candid
I can’t imagine an organization where this wouldn’t have come up on some roadmap or prioritization meeting, etc. How could leadership not know what the org is working on?! They’re not that big.
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#5Here's what I don't understand. There clearly were tensions between the for and not-for growth factions, but the Dev Day is being cited as a 'last straw'. It was a product launch. Ilya, and the board, should have been well aware of what was being released on that day for months. They should have at the very least been privy to the plan, if not outright sanctioned it. Seems like before launch would have been the time…
Could be many things, like Sam not informing them of the GPTs store launch, or saying he won't launch and then launching.
It sucks for openAi, but there's too many hungry hungry competitors salivating at replacing OpenAI so I don't think this will have big king term consequences in the field.
I'm curious what sorts of oversight and recourse all the investors (or are they donors?) Have. I imagine there's a lot of people with a lot of money that are quite angry today.
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#6Here's what I don't understand. There clearly were tensions between the for and not-for growth factions, but the Dev Day is being cited as a 'last straw'. It was a product launch. Ilya, and the board, should have been well aware of what was being released on that day for months. They should have at the very least been privy to the plan, if not outright sanctioned it. Seems like before launch would have been the time…
Could be many things, like Sam not informing them of the GPTs store launch, or saying he won't launch and then launching. It sucks for openAi, but there's too many hungry hungry competitors salivating at replacing OpenAI so I don't think this will have big king term consequences in the field. I'm curious what sorts of oversight and recourse all the investors (or are they donors?) Have. I imagine there's a lot of peop…
They don’t have investors, it’s a non profit.
The “won’t anyone think of the needs of the elite wealthy investor class” that has run through the 11 threads on this topic is pretty baffling I have to admit.
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#7Here's the thing. I've always been kind of cold on OpeanAI claiming to be "Open" when it was clearly a for profit thing and I was concerned about the increasing move to the commercialization of AI that Sam was taking.
But I am much more concerned to be honest those who feel they need to control the development of AI to ensure it is "aligns with their principles", after all principles can change, and to quote Lewis "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
What we really need is another Stallman, his idea was first and foremost always freedom, allowing each individual agency to decide their own fate. Every other avenue will always result in men in suits in far away rooms dictating to the rest of the world what their vision of society should be.
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#8Here's what I don't understand. There clearly were tensions between the for and not-for growth factions, but the Dev Day is being cited as a 'last straw'. It was a product launch. Ilya, and the board, should have been well aware of what was being released on that day for months. They should have at the very least been privy to the plan, if not outright sanctioned it. Seems like before launch would have been the time…
These people are humans, and there’s a big difference between kinda knowing the keynote was coming up, and then actually watching it happen and receive absolutely rave coverage from everyone in tech.
I could very much see it as a “look in the mirror” moment, yeah.
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#9What are the odds Sam can work the phones this weekend and have $10B lined up by Monday for a new AI company which will take all of the good talent from OpenAI?
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could be many things, like Sam not informing them of the GPTs store launch, or saying he won't launch and then launching. It sucks for openAi, but there's too many hungry hungry competitors salivating at replacing OpenAI so I don't think this will have big king term consequences in the field. I'm curious what sorts of oversight and recourse all the investors (or are they donors?) Have. I imagine there's a lot of peop…
They don’t have investors, it’s a non profit. The “won’t anyone think of the needs of the elite wealthy investor class” that has run through the 11 threads on this topic is pretty baffling I have to admit.
They do have investors in the for-profit subsidiary, including Microsoft and the employees. Check out the diagram in the linked article.