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Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Makes for a Great Linux Laptop

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Re: Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Makes for a Great Linux Laptop

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It's been good for me; I think it'll be great soon. AMD support on Linux is the biggest issue.

The upgrade experience from the Intel 12th gen to a Ryzen 5 took about a half-hour, doing only the mainboard and no display or hinge upgrades, and I was already familiar with the internals from assembling it as a DIY. It's not trivially easy, and there were a few frustrating moments that aren't unique to the Framework (ok, I'm just talking about the goddamned wifi antenna connections), but I've had a harder time upgrading or repairing just the RAM or storage on some ultrathin laptops.

The firmware limitations on ports imposed by AMD are frustrating in concept but less so in practice; for me it meant just swapping expansion cards from the rear slots to the front slots. I can imagine for people who had very specific setups it could be more disruptive.

But the OS experience was sloppy, and I'm not surprised that Phoronix waited until Fedora 39 left beta. AMD GPU issues necessitated kernel patches that wouldn't land in Fedora 38 by launch, and I still hit GPU-related memalloc issues with the updated kernel _and_ the BIOS update that Phoronix also waited for.[1] I've also hit the wake-while-lid-closed problems specific to the AMD mainboard that have onerous udev workarounds.[2]

The weird power supply limitations for using the board standalone, requiring at least a 100W supply for still less than full performance unless any battery is attached, also limits the flexibility that makes these boards attractive outside of the laptop case, whether bought for that intent or as a post-upgrade reuse.

1: https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-graphical-corruption...

2: https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-framework-amd-ryzen-...

Re: Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Makes for a Great Linux Laptop

#8
At the risk of sounding negative I have to dissent. Linux on the Framework is great *if* you use GNOME or KDE. Those two DE's specifically support Fractional scaling in Wayland the best

I've been using XFCE for the better part of 15 years meanwhile. Its Wayland support is a permanent unfortunate "work-in-progress" (apparently they only have two full-time developers for the whole project?) and I'd assume many other less popular desktop environments are in a similar bucket

The Framework is a fantastic laptop and a joy to use even under Windows 11. I don't hold its XFCE issues against Framework, but it's worth remembering that "Linux on the Desktop" isn't a single monolith

Re: Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Makes for a Great Linux Laptop

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post #6

Nice hardware, except for that black strip between the |\ key and the enter key, making them look as one big enter key.

Simple answer my friend, so that they can use one chassis on both the ANSI and ISO models. Pretty standard practice in laptops.
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