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Google/IAC/Expedia (2019)

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Re: Google/IAC/Expedia (2019)

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Post by epolanski »

Between Android, App Store, Chrome and Search Google has a very big stronghold over how people access and consume the internet.

Google has an insane competitive advantage over most of the internet into knowing exactly what are people looking for and being the first to provide it.

This isn't any different to what Amazon does on their shop. They know what sells and for how better than any of their sellers, and they will know what basic product to launch and kill the competition.

But honestly, I think that if I was Google or Amazon...I would do the same? They aren't in the business of charity or powering internet users but making money for shareholders.

As a user I despise that, but as an entrepreneur monetizing information and channeling it to your own services is such a no brainer.

This is a very difficult topic to discuss, one that's born from people defaulting to Google Search and the lack of any realistic competition.

It doesn't matter how worse google search gets, it's still going to be the default search for ages due to it being default already on pretty much every device bar Windows computers when using Edge.

At some point this is an issue for legislators I fear, because I just don't see how anyone can fight this.

Re: Google/IAC/Expedia (2019)

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Post by bomewish »

epolanski wrote: post #3

Between Android, App Store, Chrome and Search Google has a very big stronghold over how people access and consume the internet. Google has an insane competitive advantage over most of the internet into knowing exactly what are people looking for and being the first to provide it. This isn't any different to what Amazon does on their shop. They know what sells and for how better than any of their sellers, and they wil…

Hate to say it but this is where we get the state to step in and simply dismember the company.

Re: Google/IAC/Expedia (2019)

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Post by sschueller »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #2

> Google has become an existential threat to all our businesses To the web itself.

Apple as well. If you are trying to provide for example a piece of configuration software that runs on a mobile device in a heavily Apple dominant market you are at the whim of Apple App store reviewers.

Re: Google/IAC/Expedia (2019)

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Post by epolanski »

bomewish wrote: post #5
epolanski wrote: post #3

Between Android, App Store, Chrome and Search Google has a very big stronghold over how people access and consume the internet. Google has an insane competitive advantage over most of the internet into knowing exactly what are people looking for and being the first to provide it. This isn't any different to what Amazon does on their shop. They know what sells and for how better than any of their sellers, and they wil…

Hate to say it but this is where we get the state to step in and simply dismember the company.

I do think that Google is indeed too big to the point it's a threat for the future of the internet and fair competition indeed.

But I also don't like the idea of legislators having to sort it out, they may do more damage than good for all the parties, from companies to users to Google.

Re: Google/IAC/Expedia (2019)

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Post by fidotron »

One of the reasons ARM could never have started in the US (and a reason to argue against the nVidia takeover) is american b2b culture leads to inevitably competing with your own customers, and I can almost sense the replies in advance defending such activity as better for the consumer even though in the long run it clearly is not.

Mr Diller here I am sure is far from angelic but he is doing heroic if futile work. Google simply cannot stop their antics unless forced to do so.

Re: Google/IAC/Expedia (2019)

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Post by izacus »

bomewish wrote: post #5
epolanski wrote: post #3

Between Android, App Store, Chrome and Search Google has a very big stronghold over how people access and consume the internet. Google has an insane competitive advantage over most of the internet into knowing exactly what are people looking for and being the first to provide it. This isn't any different to what Amazon does on their shop. They know what sells and for how better than any of their sellers, and they wil…

Hate to say it but this is where we get the state to step in and simply dismember the company.

Dismember into what? Except for a lot of ranting and stamping of feet on HN, I don't see a lot of HNers jumping in and providing free alternative services for Google services?

There is a lot of DEMAND for free services for sure, but doesn't seem a lot of people are putting their money where their mouth is? Kagi hasn't grown all that much, neither have services like Nebula?

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