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Cars downloading text messages from phones doesn't violate state privacy law

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Re: Cars downloading text messages from phones doesn't violate state privacy law

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> The class-action "complaint alleges that the vehicle's system downloads all text messages and call logs from Plaintiffs' cellphones as soon as they are connected," the Ford ruling said.

This doesn't match with my experience renting cars. After connecting Bluetooth for calls, I am specifically prompted as to whether or not I want to share contacts or texts. Of course I always choose "No". If you choose "Yes" to the question about sharing contacts and texts, it seems hard to complain that the car stores your contacts and texts.

Re: Cars downloading text messages from phones doesn't violate state privacy law

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> The class-action "complaint alleges that the vehicle's system downloads all text messages and call logs from Plaintiffs' cellphones as soon as they are connected," the Ford ruling said. This doesn't match with my experience renting cars. After connecting Bluetooth for calls, I am specifically prompted as to whether or not I want to share contacts or texts. Of course I always choose "No". If you choose "Yes" to the…

At least in android this prompt is relatively new (compared to the age of this lawsuit). It used to show no dialog and just give access…

Re: Cars downloading text messages from phones doesn't violate state privacy law

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> The class-action "complaint alleges that the vehicle's system downloads all text messages and call logs from Plaintiffs' cellphones as soon as they are connected," the Ford ruling said. This doesn't match with my experience renting cars. After connecting Bluetooth for calls, I am specifically prompted as to whether or not I want to share contacts or texts. Of course I always choose "No". If you choose "Yes" to the…

At least in android this prompt is relatively new (compared to the age of this lawsuit). It used to show no dialog and just give access…

That sounds like your manufacturer did something weird, the confirmation dialog goes back to some pretty old versions of Android

https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Sett...

Re: Cars downloading text messages from phones doesn't violate state privacy law

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Question: Does resetting infotainment systems and head units clear the message history, or is everyone permanently unable to remove the info car systems have grabbed?

I hope that this isn't a situation where you have no control, -as that means most people, who don't know that cars do this- wouldn't be able to do a thing even once informed- and are vulnerable to data breaches, now and in the future as cars storing various data expands.

Re: Cars downloading text messages from phones doesn't violate state privacy law

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> The class-action "complaint alleges that the vehicle's system downloads all text messages and call logs from Plaintiffs' cellphones as soon as they are connected," the Ford ruling said. This doesn't match with my experience renting cars. After connecting Bluetooth for calls, I am specifically prompted as to whether or not I want to share contacts or texts. Of course I always choose "No". If you choose "Yes" to the…

At least in android this prompt is relatively new (compared to the age of this lawsuit). It used to show no dialog and just give access…

This prompt has been in Android for years...At least as far back as the Galaxy S1 and the Pixel 1.

The prompt is relatively new for iPhones though. I've had plenty of rental cars where Apple users' entire phonebooks had been uploaded to the car.

Re: Cars downloading text messages from phones doesn't violate state privacy law

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least in android this prompt is relatively new (compared to the age of this lawsuit). It used to show no dialog and just give access…

That sounds like your manufacturer did something weird, the confirmation dialog goes back to some pretty old versions of Android https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Sett...

Sorry for me 2015 is “recent”. I worked on android 2012-2018.

Re: Cars downloading text messages from phones doesn't violate state privacy law

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least in android this prompt is relatively new (compared to the age of this lawsuit). It used to show no dialog and just give access…

That sounds like your manufacturer did something weird, the confirmation dialog goes back to some pretty old versions of Android https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Sett...

Looks like the request is qualified with "when connected", which would not grant permission to store the data.

Re: Cars downloading text messages from phones doesn't violate state privacy law

#10
The data theft pyramid:

Corporations stealing data from the people - business.

Governments stealing data from corporations - national security.

People stealing data from corporations - copyright infringement.

People stealing data from governments - treason.

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