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It shouldn't matter if people work multiple jobs. -Former VP of HR at Microsoft

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Re: It shouldn't matter if people work multiple jobs. -Former VP of HR at Microsoft

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"Former" is the key.

A lot of people will say things like that when they're no (longer?) in position to actually make a difference - it's a safe way to garner sympathy and attention without actually making the decision and be responsible for its consequences. I can guarantee you he wouldn't have the same opinion if he was still in his position and had political power to be able to actually allow this.

People working multiple jobs are universally frowned upon by the slave masters not only because this allows the slave to be less financially dependent on the master (which means they won't accept as much abuse as they would if they had no other source of income), but also because the extra money affords them a lifestyle that can rival those in higher, more prestigious positions. Same reason remote work is under constant pressure, since it used to be a perk exclusive to higher positions and seeing the peasants enjoy it doesn't fly too well.

Re: It shouldn't matter if people work multiple jobs. -Former VP of HR at Microsoft

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post #2

"Former" is the key. A lot of people will say things like that when they're no (longer?) in position to actually make a difference - it's a safe way to garner sympathy and attention without actually making the decision and be responsible for its consequences. I can guarantee you he wouldn't have the same opinion if he was still in his position and had political power to be able to actually allow this. People working…

Perhaps the master/slave relationship isn't the best metaphor for voluntary employment...

Re: It shouldn't matter if people work multiple jobs. -Former VP of HR at Microsoft

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post #2

"Former" is the key. A lot of people will say things like that when they're no (longer?) in position to actually make a difference - it's a safe way to garner sympathy and attention without actually making the decision and be responsible for its consequences. I can guarantee you he wouldn't have the same opinion if he was still in his position and had political power to be able to actually allow this. People working…

Are you really calling engineers who earn 300k and more at those companies “slaves”?

Re: It shouldn't matter if people work multiple jobs. -Former VP of HR at Microsoft

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I've never really understood the opposition to this besides non-competes et al. Ultimately I think work should be about delivery of a product or service not time spent, and if an enterprising person can deliver a business a product or service and at the same time deliver something else for another business, why shouldn't they be able to?

I've always noticed this disturbing tendency in some people to assume that since they employed you they own your entire life. I think they need to adjust their attitudes.

Re: It shouldn't matter if people work multiple jobs. -Former VP of HR at Microsoft

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post #2

"Former" is the key. A lot of people will say things like that when they're no (longer?) in position to actually make a difference - it's a safe way to garner sympathy and attention without actually making the decision and be responsible for its consequences. I can guarantee you he wouldn't have the same opinion if he was still in his position and had political power to be able to actually allow this. People working…

Perhaps the master/slave relationship isn't the best metaphor for voluntary employment...

It's not voluntary unless/until you can find me a place where housing/land is free.

Sure, the slavery is "distributed" across multiple actors such as landlords & profit off the whole concept of property as an asset, but ultimately the net result is the same - you have to work just to be afforded shelter.

The end result is that you work or you die (out of exposure, medical bills, etc). Not much different from the slavery from the old days?

Re: It shouldn't matter if people work multiple jobs. -Former VP of HR at Microsoft

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"Former" is the key. A lot of people will say things like that when they're no (longer?) in position to actually make a difference - it's a safe way to garner sympathy and attention without actually making the decision and be responsible for its consequences. I can guarantee you he wouldn't have the same opinion if he was still in his position and had political power to be able to actually allow this. People working…

Are you really calling engineers who earn 300k and more at those companies “slaves”?

I wouldn’t use the word slave, but a lot of these companies have moonlighting agreements and verbiage like “will dedicate your full business attention” to ensure you aren’t building anything that isn’t for them.

Re: It shouldn't matter if people work multiple jobs. -Former VP of HR at Microsoft

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I've never really understood the opposition to this besides non-competes et al. Ultimately I think work should be about delivery of a product or service not time spent, and if an enterprising person can deliver a business a product or service and at the same time deliver something else for another business, why shouldn't they be able to? I've always noticed this disturbing tendency in some people to assume that since…

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Re: It shouldn't matter if people work multiple jobs. -Former VP of HR at Microsoft

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I've never really understood the opposition to this besides non-competes et al. Ultimately I think work should be about delivery of a product or service not time spent, and if an enterprising person can deliver a business a product or service and at the same time deliver something else for another business, why shouldn't they be able to? I've always noticed this disturbing tendency in some people to assume that since…

Do consultant contracts tend to impose these contraints?

Re: It shouldn't matter if people work multiple jobs. -Former VP of HR at Microsoft

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"Former" is the key. A lot of people will say things like that when they're no (longer?) in position to actually make a difference - it's a safe way to garner sympathy and attention without actually making the decision and be responsible for its consequences. I can guarantee you he wouldn't have the same opinion if he was still in his position and had political power to be able to actually allow this. People working…

Are you really calling engineers who earn 300k and more at those companies “slaves”?

Engineers making 300k is a US-specific phenomenon and was only as a result of the very competitive SWE job market (itself as a result of "free" VC money which has now ran out).

There's no guarantee it won't become like the UK or most of Europe where software engineering salaries are miserable.

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