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Re: New fighter jet camouflage schemes

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An better camouflage scheme would be to identify the general direction of the aggressor, and take a photograph of the terrain (or sky) in the opposite direction, then tint or color of the airplane with that background, so it blends in.

If the computer could establish the exact location and direction and velocity of the looker, it could make itself partially invisible by projecting to the viewer the same colors that would have been projected had the plane not even been there. With enough knowledge of the viewer, a scrolling image of the background could be projected.

Re: New fighter jet camouflage schemes

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Does camouflage really helps in modern air combat? Aircrafts engage each other mostly on beyond visual range distances, and dogfighting in kinda rare now. Also, HUDs should assist in tracking of targets and highlight them, so camo will make no difference. The only use for camo I can think of is to hide the aircraft while it's stationed on the airstrip - in a relatively vulnerable position.

Re: New fighter jet camouflage schemes

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An better camouflage scheme would be to identify the general direction of the aggressor, and take a photograph of the terrain (or sky) in the opposite direction, then tint or color of the airplane with that background, so it blends in. If the computer could establish the exact location and direction and velocity of the looker, it could make itself partially invisible by projecting to the viewer the same colors that w…

At the speed these aircrafts are moving, I doubt there would be significant improvement over these camo solutions. Not to mention the price difference.

Re: New fighter jet camouflage schemes

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This is a pretty old idea however not applied to aircraft, it was used on ships in WW1 and WW2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzle_camouflage

It's more similar to the MARPAT camouflage pattern used by the Marines: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARPAT

The rationale is closer to that behind dazzle camouflage, though—to confuse, rather than to conceal.

Re: New fighter jet camouflage schemes

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post #5

Does camouflage really helps in modern air combat? Aircrafts engage each other mostly on beyond visual range distances, and dogfighting in kinda rare now. Also, HUDs should assist in tracking of targets and highlight them, so camo will make no difference. The only use for camo I can think of is to hide the aircraft while it's stationed on the airstrip - in a relatively vulnerable position.

I'm not sure. I read something recently that the last modern dogfight happened around 1999. I'm also confused as to how the concept of "hiding" which way a plane is flying can be achieved with this. If I'm still / have ground support and see something in the sky / radar I'm pretty sure no matter what color it is (even if it closely matches the sky) I could say which direction it was moving? What am I missing? Either way, as a art student that always wanted to fly a fighter jet, these look really sweet!

Re: New fighter jet camouflage schemes

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Does camouflage really helps in modern air combat? Aircrafts engage each other mostly on beyond visual range distances, and dogfighting in kinda rare now. Also, HUDs should assist in tracking of targets and highlight them, so camo will make no difference. The only use for camo I can think of is to hide the aircraft while it's stationed on the airstrip - in a relatively vulnerable position.

Modern fighter jets give pilots helmets which contain a 360 degree view of the battlefield to show them where the airplanes are. The computers which acquire the location of the other airplanes use radar and visual spectrum. What other way can the human or computer find out position direction and velocity of enemy jets who jam radar and camouflage themselves?

History channel has some modern Pilots talking about dogfight speeds of mach .9, radar, and radar stealth (sending back scrambled radar messages) to enemy craft is the deciding factor in a dogfight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnUwxDhE1kU&t=9m9s

Re: New fighter jet camouflage schemes

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I wonder whether camouflage has changed in purpose (on fighter jets) and is no longer about "fooling" the human visual system, but about fooling computer vision.

I'd guess those "New Aesthetic" style pixelated camo paintjobs would do a pretty good job of fooling OpenCV based classifiers…

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