Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
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Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#2Waymo claims to already have a better record than human drivers. How long before we read a similar case where a driver is accused of creating unsafe conditions by taking control of the car?
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#3Waymo claims to already have a better record than human drivers. How long before we read a similar case where a driver is accused of creating unsafe conditions by taking control of the car?
>Waymo claims to already have a better record than human drivers
Elon Musk claims the same but there is a "terms and conditions apply" and they don't agree to assume responsibility.
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#4Waymo claims to already have a better record than human drivers. How long before we read a similar case where a driver is accused of creating unsafe conditions by taking control of the car?
A while, there's only one car maker selling one car to the general public right now who's taking legal liability for crashes while their system is active.
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#5Waymo claims to already have a better record than human drivers. How long before we read a similar case where a driver is accused of creating unsafe conditions by taking control of the car?
I guess until all autonomous vehicles are fully equipped with real sensors (likely both lidar and radar) so that cars can almost-mechanically stop before foreseeable collisions without worrying about AI hiccups. This is technically possible even now, but it's way too expensive for now.
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#6Don't you have to defeat a safety interlock to allow hands off the wheel driving in a Tesla?
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#7Don't you have to defeat a safety interlock to allow hands off the wheel driving in a Tesla?
You have to nudge the wheel every 30s or so, and respond to audible prompts to "wiggle" the wheel or steering control will be disabled for the rest of the drive.
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#8Don't you have to defeat a safety interlock to allow hands off the wheel driving in a Tesla?
Have you never used your legs to kind of hold the wheel or even steer in a car when you've taken your hands off for a moment? That's what I'm going to guess was going on here.
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#9Waymo claims to already have a better record than human drivers. How long before we read a similar case where a driver is accused of creating unsafe conditions by taking control of the car?
I guess until all autonomous vehicles are fully equipped with real sensors (likely both lidar and radar) so that cars can almost-mechanically stop before foreseeable collisions without worrying about AI hiccups. This is technically possible even now, but it's way too expensive for now.
Unless a lot of money is paid out in campaign contributions, I suspect you're right.
I'm worried about a time when the _statistical_ safety of AI driving is better than humans across the board, but there are horrifying correlations between AI induced accidents, like "Children on tricycles are not well recognized" or "slight fog in Seattle induces 150 car pileup". Or, AI causes worse accidents less frequently than humans. Whereas humans have lots more fender benders and minor injuries to older adults.
Not saying this is true, but it's a scenario I think about a lot.
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#10Waymo claims to already have a better record than human drivers. How long before we read a similar case where a driver is accused of creating unsafe conditions by taking control of the car?
I guess until all autonomous vehicles are fully equipped with real sensors (likely both lidar and radar) so that cars can almost-mechanically stop before foreseeable collisions without worrying about AI hiccups. This is technically possible even now, but it's way too expensive for now.
Why should lidar be a requirement when that's not a requirement for humans to be able to drive? The goal is to reduce traffic fatalities, humans are not reliable, if you say we can't have automation until its 100% perfect, then you are actively choosing to have more traffic fatalities.