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Ubuntu Linux snuck into high-end Dell laptops

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Re: Ubuntu Linux snuck into high-end Dell laptops

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I bought an XPS13 in 2012 or so with Ubuntu preinstalled and it was rock solid for years (although I ran Fedora on it).

I remember buying it was really difficult, it wasn't listed on the UK website and in the end I had to phone their sales number and was passed through several people who'd never heard of Ubuntu.

A few days later I received an email with a link to an unlisted store item that had the same photos as the equivalent Windows model, but it was about £30 cheaper.

Snook is an apt word for my experience, hope it's improved.

Re: Ubuntu Linux snuck into high-end Dell laptops

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In theory, laptops from Dell should work with Linux.

In practice, not so much, especially if you like to sleep and wake up from sleep everytime without a crash + a reasonable power consumption, both during use and during sleep.

IMHO consumption during sleep far more important: if I didn't plug the computer, I expect it to wake up immediately (no S4/suspend to disk) and with less than 0.5% of battery lost per hour (so for 10h of sleep and 80% battery before sleep, at least 75% battery left), if I put it in a bag, I expect it to stay asleep and not be a fire hazard: dells run hot when closed and in a bag, to the point of battery exhaustion or thermal shutdown)

I prefer Lenovo for everything, especially the keyboard but also ECC ram, OLED displays ... things almost impossible to find anywhere else!

I've been moving to a eink tablet but I purchased a Lenovo wireless keyboard: every key being in the exact same position on all my hardware has sizeable benefits in comfort.

Also, I want PageUp and PageDown around the Up key, something impossible to find outside of Lenovo.

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> The Dell XPS 13 is the best-known developer-focused, high-end Linux laptop. Not a good ol' ThinkPad T-series?

I guess not anymore. I'd say that until a bunch of years ago, you'd be right. Nowadays, I don't see Thinkpads often anymore. My 0.02.

Re: Ubuntu Linux snuck into high-end Dell laptops

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I bought an XPS13 in 2012 or so with Ubuntu preinstalled and it was rock solid for years (although I ran Fedora on it). I remember buying it was really difficult, it wasn't listed on the UK website and in the end I had to phone their sales number and was passed through several people who'd never heard of Ubuntu. A few days later I received an email with a link to an unlisted store item that had the same photos as the…

Dell is definitely weird about this; I had the same experience. Perfectly satisfied with my laptop (an XPS 13 with Ubuntu on it bought a few years ago), but Dell's online store is just bonkers.

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In theory, laptops from Dell should work with Linux. In practice, not so much, especially if you like to sleep and wake up from sleep everytime without a crash + a reasonable power consumption, both during use and during sleep. IMHO consumption during sleep far more important: if I didn't plug the computer, I expect it to wake up immediately (no S4/suspend to disk) and with less than 0.5% of battery lost per hour (so…

>eink tablet

That's my fetish! Which one did you go for?

Re: Ubuntu Linux snuck into high-end Dell laptops

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In theory, laptops from Dell should work with Linux. In practice, not so much, especially if you like to sleep and wake up from sleep everytime without a crash + a reasonable power consumption, both during use and during sleep. IMHO consumption during sleep far more important: if I didn't plug the computer, I expect it to wake up immediately (no S4/suspend to disk) and with less than 0.5% of battery lost per hour (so…

My work machine, a Precision 5550 (XPS 15) has never been able to reliably wake from sleep. Ubuntu, Pop!_OS, Windows 11- it doesn’t matter.

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In theory, laptops from Dell should work with Linux. In practice, not so much, especially if you like to sleep and wake up from sleep everytime without a crash + a reasonable power consumption, both during use and during sleep. IMHO consumption during sleep far more important: if I didn't plug the computer, I expect it to wake up immediately (no S4/suspend to disk) and with less than 0.5% of battery lost per hour (so…

>eink tablet That's my fetish! Which one did you go for?

Bigme (10 inch color eink) but the Boox are also great if you like color eink. It's a matter of preferences: I got both, kept the Bigme and gifted the Boox.

I was asked about my setup a few days ago. I'm preparing a tutorial to help with rooting, removing unwanted apps etc.

Re: Ubuntu Linux snuck into high-end Dell laptops

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In theory, laptops from Dell should work with Linux. In practice, not so much, especially if you like to sleep and wake up from sleep everytime without a crash + a reasonable power consumption, both during use and during sleep. IMHO consumption during sleep far more important: if I didn't plug the computer, I expect it to wake up immediately (no S4/suspend to disk) and with less than 0.5% of battery lost per hour (so…

Lenovo laptops tend to be best bang for buck but ime poor build quality and support. I've sent each of the three I've owned in for warranty repair at some point. It took at least a month for all of them and two of them still died a month or two later from repair-related issues (eg glue around new lcd housing was too weak and it eventually warped / cracked).
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