The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing
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The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing
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Re: The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing
#2When atheles start collapsing of heart-failure on the track, then what?
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#3I understand the reasoning as to why the Olympics are "drug-free," but I have never really understood the other side of the argument.
Sports have improved in all sorts of ways. We have better training methods. We have better equipment. We have better medicine.
While I'm not sure I'd try it, I would love to see the limits of human ability with PEDs. I'd be willing to bet that some of those drugs would translate well to medicine for non-elite athletes.
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#4This website ignores the big problem with enhancement medication: the health of participants.
A future where there is an incentive to juice up athletes as much as possible is a recipe for disaster.
Re: The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing
#5When atheles start collapsing of heart-failure on the track, then what?
This is a conversation I've had before as well. It's not like PEDs are a free ticket to bonus athleticism. They come with huge costs.
Re: The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing
#6When atheles start collapsing of heart-failure on the track, then what?
this is a risk even without PEDs though, right?
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#7I agree with the basic moral principle of this and think it's a fine idea in theory, but how are you going to get any of the best athletes to participate? The only realistic route to doing something like that is the LIV thing using Saudi Oil money to just flat-out pay ungodly money to the point you overcome the natural competitive spirit that tends to motivate athletes and they're willing to be blacklisted from the actual top leagues.
Fundamentally, the problem here isn't with the sports organizations themselves. It's with the countries they're in. Steroid use is illegal in most of the world. If you achieve any level of success worth paying attention to, some legislature, law enforcement body, or both will come try to shut you down. Even the IFBB has to pretend to drug test, as obviously bullshit and easy to beat as it is. Are you only ever going to host games in Mexico?
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#8This seems hypocritical to me. I kind of get it as a way to level the playing field in one sense (though not, I expect, in many other senses). But their "inclusive language" guide is not internally consistent, and in fact breaks down in the first two paragraphs:
It kicks off saying "Being enhanced isn’t a preference or a lifestyle choice." - but it immediately proceeds to contradict that by emphasising choice: "When we talk about science and being enhanced, we’re not talking about preferences or choices or value judgments" and "Inclusive language is a way of acknowledging and respecting the complete control and autonomy people have over their bodies."
So... Yeah. It really does seem to be a choice.
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#9SNL, All Drug Olympics (1988)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAdG-iTilWU
Addresses the main problem with this approach.
Re: The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing
#10This website ignores the big problem with enhancement medication: the health of participants. A future where there is an incentive to juice up athletes as much as possible is a recipe for disaster.
Yep but that's true of many sports. In fact most sports at high levels involve a heightened risk of life-changing injury. It's a difference of degree rather than type.
Not that that invalidates your criticism but it does require it to be formulated in a more nuanced way.