Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B
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Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B
#2They might be good performance wise, but if you watch the Jeff Geerling video he mentions in the post, it will show you how much trouble he has with it. Custom distros with broken repos, non mainlined outdated kernels.
Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B
#3They're all shit. Get a Lenovo mini PC off eBay and stick Debian on it. I replaced my shitty Pi with a Lenovo M600.
If you want a dependable computer, stay away from pseudo-embedded hardware.
Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B
#4They're all shit. Get a Lenovo mini PC off eBay and stick Debian on it. I replaced my shitty Pi with a Lenovo M600. If you want a dependable computer, stay away from pseudo-embedded hardware.
If you are hobbling with a PI it's all about the community support, form factor, low power and the header pins. Hopefully if you are buying a Pi you already have a specific project in mind.
For example: I use a few zero 2 w's with shairport-sync to make Airplay stereos. I use the header pins to control a relay to turn on and off an audio amp. Pi 4+ would actually work a lot better for this especially when playing audio on multiple of these setups at once. A Lenovo mini pc wouldn't be as easy to hide.
Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B
#5They might be good performance wise, but if you watch the Jeff Geerling video he mentions in the post, it will show you how much trouble he has with it. Custom distros with broken repos, non mainlined outdated kernels.
Yup, can confirm. Was trying to setup an Octoprint machine for my 3d printer, none of Raspberry Pi’s were in stock. After trying to catch one for weeks, I ended up buying the second-newest revision of OrangePi that was pretty powerful (not the barebones version).
To say it was trouble would be an understatement. Even after I successfully completed the setup (which took forever, as the documentation was contradicting, confusing, and felt like it was worse than machine-translated to english). Stability wasn’t there either at all. Occasionally it would just lock up and freeze, requiring a hard reboot. It would heat up pretty bad sometimes, despite an extra heat dissipator/cooler (that i triply made sure was installed properly). Webcam would randomly just refuse working (and I had to manually edit linux configs to get it to work in the first place). Sometimes SSH connection would just die and I become unable to connect to it again without either a reboot or restarting networking services on it (which would require me physically being next to it, thus defeating the point of Octoprint being remote). And mind you, I didn’t run it as some heavy production-tier 3d printing controller, I would print something a couple times a week tops, and nothing too complex or too high res (in terms of the model being printed).
All while Raspberry Pi has great documentation, and Octoprint setup on it is pretty much plug and play with just a few clicks of installing dependencies (or even simpler than that, if you install a dedicated Octoprint distro made specifically for Raspberry Pi).
Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B
#6Am I crazy, or are we jumping from 4 to 5 whilst ignoring the fact that most of us still can't get hold of 4 due to the supply chain issues?
Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B
#7They're all shit. Get a Lenovo mini PC off eBay and stick Debian on it. I replaced my shitty Pi with a Lenovo M600. If you want a dependable computer, stay away from pseudo-embedded hardware.
But that mini PC likely has as much as 10x the power draw... They are not interterchangable for lower power use cases
Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B
#8They're all shit. Get a Lenovo mini PC off eBay and stick Debian on it. I replaced my shitty Pi with a Lenovo M600. If you want a dependable computer, stay away from pseudo-embedded hardware.
They’re an order of magnitude more powerful than a Pi or a clone, and are much easier to deal with from a compatibility standpoint.
The power considerations are pretty negligible from a cost per year perspective.
I really only use mine for pseudo IOT applications where space is a factor, like for OctPi and a Shairplay receiver.
Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B
#9They're all shit. Get a Lenovo mini PC off eBay and stick Debian on it. I replaced my shitty Pi with a Lenovo M600. If you want a dependable computer, stay away from pseudo-embedded hardware.
What’s the power consumption on that? The biggest draw for these machines (to me at least), is how they seem to run on a 5w power source.
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#10Geez for the prices listed in the article (153 EUR and 301 EUR), get a TMM (tiny mini micro - https://www.servethehome.com/introducing-project-tinyminimic...) computer. These are the SFF/USFF off-lease older enterprise computers like Dell Optiplex. Note that ServeTheHome.com does power consumption for every model it reviews.
These ~1L sized computers idle in the 7-13W range. Even with EU electricity prices, it would take you a very, very long time to make up the difference from a 5W SBC.
You also get standard x86 support, normal expand-ability, M.2 slots, PCIe ports, etc. You lose GPIO support.
For $100-$120 on eBay, a search for 'dell optiplex 3070' typically results in getting either a i3-9100 or i5-9500, 8-16GB memory, and 120-256GB NVMe. I bought one a couple months ago for Blue Iris and it uses 8W at idle. Here's an example of a USFF (ultra small form factor) for $110 - https://www.ebay.com/itm/325826958401
Lenovo variant (M720q tiny) for $121 w/ i5-8400T, 16GB, and 256GB SSD (probably NVMe) - https://www.ebay.com/itm/266450621632