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F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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One way to be a little less constantly violated by your phone is to run GrapheneOS, instead of iOS or ordinary Android: https://grapheneos.org/

They only seem to support pixel, although pixels can be bought for cheap when compared to iphones, they're still expensive for countries which are still developing.

For example Im using a device which is 1/4th the price of cheapest first hand pixel that I can get

:(

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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One way to be a little less constantly violated by your phone is to run GrapheneOS, instead of iOS or ordinary Android: https://grapheneos.org/

… as long as you trust the developers, and their ability to secure themselves, of course.

I mean, if I was a three letter agency, sneaking into some GrapheneOS developer’s basement to add a camera to record his keystrokes would be the easiest trade ever for all the paranoid people using it. It’d be way easier than sneaking into Apple or Google. Might even be worth violating internal law to do it; because getting caught is extremely unlikely, and forgiveness is easy.

Edit: Also, don’t forget that, if you should get arrested, “he used GrapheneOS” is 100% going to be used against you in court. You might use technical arguments or principled reasoning, but that doesn’t resonate with juries. Unfortunately, using extra-strong privacy tools is perfect for framing you as a criminal.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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One way to be a little less constantly violated by your phone is to run GrapheneOS, instead of iOS or ordinary Android: https://grapheneos.org/

… as long as you trust the developers, and their ability to secure themselves, of course. I mean, if I was a three letter agency, sneaking into some GrapheneOS developer’s basement to add a camera to record his keystrokes would be the easiest trade ever for all the paranoid people using it. It’d be way easier than sneaking into Apple or Google. Might even be worth violating internal law to do it; because getting caug…

You make a convincing argument. I'm switching to GrapheneOS for my next phone upgrade. Here is the source code: https://grapheneos.org/source

> “he used GrapheneOS” is 100% going to be used against you in court.

I look forward to using this as a litmus test for legal representation.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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One way to be a little less constantly violated by your phone is to run GrapheneOS, instead of iOS or ordinary Android: https://grapheneos.org/

They only seem to support pixel, although pixels can be bought for cheap when compared to iphones, they're still expensive for countries which are still developing. For example Im using a device which is 1/4th the price of cheapest first hand pixel that I can get :(

LineageOS is supported on a bit more devices, and works with microG if you're willing to sacrifice Google Pay for better battery life and less privacy violations: https://lineage.microg.org/

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

… as long as you trust the developers, and their ability to secure themselves, of course. I mean, if I was a three letter agency, sneaking into some GrapheneOS developer’s basement to add a camera to record his keystrokes would be the easiest trade ever for all the paranoid people using it. It’d be way easier than sneaking into Apple or Google. Might even be worth violating internal law to do it; because getting caug…

You make a convincing argument. I'm switching to GrapheneOS for my next phone upgrade. Here is the source code: https://grapheneos.org/source > “he used GrapheneOS” is 100% going to be used against you in court. I look forward to using this as a litmus test for legal representation.

Are you personally capable of ensuring:

A. The builds match the code?

B. The NSA hasn’t stolen the signing key and isn’t feeding you customized images?

True, you can’t verify that with iOS or Android either. I am saying though that trusting my security because it’s safer… by being in some guy’s garage feels like an odd trade. One that shouldn’t be casually ignored, at least.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You make a convincing argument. I'm switching to GrapheneOS for my next phone upgrade. Here is the source code: https://grapheneos.org/source > “he used GrapheneOS” is 100% going to be used against you in court. I look forward to using this as a litmus test for legal representation.

Are you personally capable of ensuring: A. The builds match the code? B. The NSA hasn’t stolen the signing key and isn’t feeding you customized images? True, you can’t verify that with iOS or Android either. I am saying though that trusting my security because it’s safer… by being in some guy’s garage feels like an odd trade. One that shouldn’t be casually ignored, at least.

No I'm not. Does that mean I might as well cc the NSA to all my emails?

Your comment is basically "is it perfect? No? Then it's not better".

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you personally capable of ensuring: A. The builds match the code? B. The NSA hasn’t stolen the signing key and isn’t feeding you customized images? True, you can’t verify that with iOS or Android either. I am saying though that trusting my security because it’s safer… by being in some guy’s garage feels like an odd trade. One that shouldn’t be casually ignored, at least.

No I'm not. Does that mean I might as well cc the NSA to all my emails? Your comment is basically "is it perfect? No? Then it's not better".

I’m saying that, if people who use it aren’t careful, they could end up like the university kid.

There was a university that received a bomb threat over Tor. They found one student who used Tor on the network at around the right time, and because he was the only Tor user, he’s in jail for a very, very long time. That kid was at Harvard, his persuer the FBI.

If you are going to use GrapheneOS, don’t be naive and think it will make you agency-proof. If anything it probably flags you to their attention.

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