Rails 7.1 Released

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Post by sathishmanohar » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 4:31 AM UTC

Re: Rails 7.1 Released

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Post by roboben » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 4:48 AM UTC

Currently stuck on a fairly large code base on rails 6 with a ton of react and trying to upgrade to the new “non”-JS way with Hotwire. Wish me luck

Rails is great when you stick with the defaults and a land of pain as soon as you leave them.

Re: Rails 7.1 Released

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Post by FBISurveillance » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 4:55 AM UTC

roboben wrote: post #2

Currently stuck on a fairly large code base on rails 6 with a ton of react and trying to upgrade to the new “non”-JS way with Hotwire. Wish me luck Rails is great when you stick with the defaults and a land of pain as soon as you leave them.

I've been doing Rails since 2005 and love it, but - and that's just my personal preference! - I wish they'd have a stable release cadence (calver like vscode maybe?) and a clearer roadmap/governance.

Maybe it's just me but I just don't like DHH's governance lately. Not in a bad way, but following him on Twitter I just no longer respect him.

Re: Rails 7.1 Released

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Post by mountaineer » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 4:56 AM UTC

A friend of mine joked a couple weeks ago that if a Rails release is announced but I hadn't submitted a PR (to upgrade), has it really happened?

Well, here we go, PR coming up. Even if it has to stack behind the 7.0 one that's been sitting there for months.

Re: Rails 7.1 Released

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Post by ywain » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 4:57 AM UTC

roboben wrote: post #2

Currently stuck on a fairly large code base on rails 6 with a ton of react and trying to upgrade to the new “non”-JS way with Hotwire. Wish me luck Rails is great when you stick with the defaults and a land of pain as soon as you leave them.

I'm working on a fairly recent Rails 7 code base. We initially started using Stimulus, but are now considering switching to React for a few reasons:

- if you're looking to hire frontend engineers, the candidate pool for React is a few orders or magnitude bigger

- it's getting harder and harder to find vanilla JS packages that you can wrap in Stimulus controllers for common tasks, compared to finding React packages

- Stimulus doesn't really offer a way to write unit tests for your controllers. With React, you can use jest and react-test-renderer like normal.

Additionally, the recent Turbo TypeScript debacle did not instill confidence in the long term stewardship of the Hotwire ecosystem.

We're still on the fence about it. Stimulus does feel like a very Railsy way to write frontend code, which is definitely a plus for small teams of people who're already familiar with Rails.

Re: Rails 7.1 Released

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Post by itake » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 4:57 AM UTC

roboben wrote: post #2

Currently stuck on a fairly large code base on rails 6 with a ton of react and trying to upgrade to the new “non”-JS way with Hotwire. Wish me luck Rails is great when you stick with the defaults and a land of pain as soon as you leave them.

I lost faith in rails JS integrations.

I either do SSR with slim or do API only with a separate frontend.

Rails changed direction too many times trying to do JS (coffee script, asset precompiling, webpack, etc)

Re: Rails 7.1 Released

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Post by itake » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 4:59 AM UTC

FBISurveillance wrote: post #3

roboben wrote: post #2

Currently stuck on a fairly large code base on rails 6 with a ton of react and trying to upgrade to the new “non”-JS way with Hotwire. Wish me luck Rails is great when you stick with the defaults and a land of pain as soon as you leave them.

I've been doing Rails since 2005 and love it, but - and that's just my personal preference! - I wish they'd have a stable release cadence (calver like vscode maybe?) and a clearer roadmap/governance. Maybe it's just me but I just don't like DHH's governance lately. Not in a bad way, but following him on Twitter I just no longer respect him.

Coding in rails since 2012 here. I lost faith in rails at 5.2. Active storage was so terrible.

Re: Rails 7.1 Released

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Post by eikenberry » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 5:01 AM UTC

roboben wrote: post #2

Currently stuck on a fairly large code base on rails 6 with a ton of react and trying to upgrade to the new “non”-JS way with Hotwire. Wish me luck Rails is great when you stick with the defaults and a land of pain as soon as you leave them.

> Rails is great when you stick with the defaults and a land of pain as soon as you leave them.

You just described every framework. Frameworks are great if your application is fairly simple and aligns with its way of doing things. Libraries are where to look if you need a more complex, flexible setup.

Re: Rails 7.1 Released

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Post by ulizzle » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 5:08 AM UTC

Rails on the backend doesn’t get the credit it deserves.

On the front-end it’s been a mess for a really long while now though

Re: Rails 7.1 Released

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Post by conorh » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 5:10 AM UTC

The official announcement here: https://rubyonrails.org/2023/10/5/Rails-7-1-0-has-been-relea... has a few more high level details. Looking forward to using some of these new changes (some of the new async query methods will be very useful for some quick performance wins).