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Ring attention with blockwise transformers for near-infinite context

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Re: Ring attention with blockwise transformers for near-infinite context

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Rather than all this effort to work around the flaws of the transformer model, maybe researchers should be looking for a better architecture altogether.

The absolutely insane amount of compute that transformers consume could probably be better used for neuroevolutionary search.

Re: Ring attention with blockwise transformers for near-infinite context

#4

Rather than all this effort to work around the flaws of the transformer model, maybe researchers should be looking for a better architecture altogether. The absolutely insane amount of compute that transformers consume could probably be better used for neuroevolutionary search.

The unreasonable effectiveness of transformer attention outweighs a lot of the downsides of limited context length for many applications.

Re: Ring attention with blockwise transformers for near-infinite context

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post #4

Rather than all this effort to work around the flaws of the transformer model, maybe researchers should be looking for a better architecture altogether. The absolutely insane amount of compute that transformers consume could probably be better used for neuroevolutionary search.

The unreasonable effectiveness of transformer attention outweighs a lot of the downsides of limited context length for many applications.

I mean ... if you think about it, attention changes the effective weights of a model.

I am fairly certain that if you try, you can show that for any particular sequence of tokens of length N, the N-1 tokens induce a residual FFNN that results in exactly the same distribution over the next tokens given just the Nth.

Re: Ring attention with blockwise transformers for near-infinite context

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The unreasonable effectiveness of transformer attention outweighs a lot of the downsides of limited context length for many applications.

I mean ... if you think about it, attention changes the effective weights of a model. I am fairly certain that if you try, you can show that for any particular sequence of tokens of length N, the N-1 tokens induce a residual FFNN that results in exactly the same distribution over the next tokens given just the Nth.

Sounds interesting, try it and share your results here :)

Re: Ring attention with blockwise transformers for near-infinite context

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The unreasonable effectiveness of transformer attention outweighs a lot of the downsides of limited context length for many applications.

I mean ... if you think about it, attention changes the effective weights of a model. I am fairly certain that if you try, you can show that for any particular sequence of tokens of length N, the N-1 tokens induce a residual FFNN that results in exactly the same distribution over the next tokens given just the Nth.

You may be interested in "Linear Transformers Are Secretly Fast Weight Programmers": https://arxiv.org/abs/2102.11174
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