Tire dust makes up the majority of ocean microplastics
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Re: Tire dust makes up the majority of ocean microplastics
#2I'm glad people are looking at how to reduce the impact of tire dust. I expect we can make big improvements because it's not something we've optimized for yet.
Not mentioned in the article is that EVs also dramatically reduce brake dust because the brakes are hardly used compared to an ICE car.
Re: Tire dust makes up the majority of ocean microplastics
#3I'm glad people are looking at how to reduce the impact of tire dust. I expect we can make big improvements because it's not something we've optimized for yet. Not mentioned in the article is that EVs also dramatically reduce brake dust because the brakes are hardly used compared to an ICE car.
Do they? How does that work? Why does it matter in what way the friction on the axle is generated? Whether I am grinding two metal on metal to generate friction or I'm charging a coil shouldn't matter to how much dust the tire generates, for the same amount of deceleration, should it?
Unless people are just slamming on their brakes and leaving tire marks when they have the option of coming to a gentle stop, which I don't think anyone would do?
EDIT: Apparently I misread "brake dust" for "tire dust", sorry!
Re: Tire dust makes up the majority of ocean microplastics
#4I'm glad people are looking at how to reduce the impact of tire dust. I expect we can make big improvements because it's not something we've optimized for yet. Not mentioned in the article is that EVs also dramatically reduce brake dust because the brakes are hardly used compared to an ICE car.
Do they? How does that work? Why does it matter in what way the friction on the axle is generated? Whether I am grinding two metal on metal to generate friction or I'm charging a coil shouldn't matter to how much dust the tire generates, for the same amount of deceleration, should it? Unless people are just slamming on their brakes and leaving tire marks when they have the option of coming to a gentle stop, which I d…
We can assume that modeless was referring to the dust generated by the brake pads themselves, I should think…
Re: Tire dust makes up the majority of ocean microplastics
#5I'm glad people are looking at how to reduce the impact of tire dust. I expect we can make big improvements because it's not something we've optimized for yet. Not mentioned in the article is that EVs also dramatically reduce brake dust because the brakes are hardly used compared to an ICE car.
Do they? How does that work? Why does it matter in what way the friction on the axle is generated? Whether I am grinding two metal on metal to generate friction or I'm charging a coil shouldn't matter to how much dust the tire generates, for the same amount of deceleration, should it? Unless people are just slamming on their brakes and leaving tire marks when they have the option of coming to a gentle stop, which I d…
I think you missed that they are talking about brake dust.
Re: Tire dust makes up the majority of ocean microplastics
#6I'm glad people are looking at how to reduce the impact of tire dust. I expect we can make big improvements because it's not something we've optimized for yet. Not mentioned in the article is that EVs also dramatically reduce brake dust because the brakes are hardly used compared to an ICE car.
Do they? How does that work? Why does it matter in what way the friction on the axle is generated? Whether I am grinding two metal on metal to generate friction or I'm charging a coil shouldn't matter to how much dust the tire generates, for the same amount of deceleration, should it? Unless people are just slamming on their brakes and leaving tire marks when they have the option of coming to a gentle stop, which I d…
They said EVs reduce brake dust, not tyre dust. It's true that tyre dust would be created just the same.
Re: Tire dust makes up the majority of ocean microplastics
#7It’s great to bring this problem up. But the focus on EVs is a distraction.
> EVs tend to shed around 20 percent more from their tires due to their higher weight and high torque compared to traditional internal combustion engine-powered vehicles.
It’s covered in this panel discussion on Fully Charged: https://youtu.be/LeHakmL6eEc?si=ebBAn8RSDhmmLfHI
Fleet operators don’t see any significant difference in tire wear. EVs have higher torque but that doesn’t matter unless to drive like a mad-man. EVs also allow you to drive very smoothly with no sudden jerk in torque.
Cars have been getting heavier long before EVs came around. One of the problems is that EVs are all new. Too many of them are bigger than they need to be. But that also goes for new ICE vehicle models.
I’m not too worried about the weight of EVs long term. Batteries are expensive. Increases in energy density, increase in vehicle efficiency and decrease in weight tends to have very significant effect on the amount of batteries you need to cover a certain range, which has huge impact on the price.
What we need to focus on is infrastructure for walking, biking and public transportation. An E-bike has made it just possible for me to bike to work in a reasonable time. So I drive our EV less and less to work.
Re: Tire dust makes up the majority of ocean microplastics
#8I'm glad people are looking at how to reduce the impact of tire dust. I expect we can make big improvements because it's not something we've optimized for yet. Not mentioned in the article is that EVs also dramatically reduce brake dust because the brakes are hardly used compared to an ICE car.
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Re: Tire dust makes up the majority of ocean microplastics
#9I'm glad people are looking at how to reduce the impact of tire dust. I expect we can make big improvements because it's not something we've optimized for yet. Not mentioned in the article is that EVs also dramatically reduce brake dust because the brakes are hardly used compared to an ICE car.
Do they? How does that work? Why does it matter in what way the friction on the axle is generated? Whether I am grinding two metal on metal to generate friction or I'm charging a coil shouldn't matter to how much dust the tire generates, for the same amount of deceleration, should it? Unless people are just slamming on their brakes and leaving tire marks when they have the option of coming to a gentle stop, which I d…
Parent post brought up brake dust, which is not what this article is about. EVs definitely put less wear on brakes but that has nothing to do with microplastics.
Re: Tire dust makes up the majority of ocean microplastics
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do they? How does that work? Why does it matter in what way the friction on the axle is generated? Whether I am grinding two metal on metal to generate friction or I'm charging a coil shouldn't matter to how much dust the tire generates, for the same amount of deceleration, should it? Unless people are just slamming on their brakes and leaving tire marks when they have the option of coming to a gentle stop, which I d…
They said EVs reduce brake dust , not tyre dust. It's true that tyre dust would be created just the same.
More actually since EVs are heavy. They also tend to accelerate faster than combustion cars.