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Holding Apple Accountable: The Future of the Internet Economy Depends on It

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Re: Holding Apple Accountable: The Future of the Internet Economy Depends on It

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I don’t see Spotify making any suggestion of a solution that addresses their concerns without boxing Apple out of the payment process entirely.

I get why what Apple has in place is onerous. I also see that Apple needs to get paid somehow. So what’s the third option?

Edit: My vote for the third option has always been, and remains, allowing of side loading apps. And this can be only for users who enable it. But it seems like this solves every complaint people have about the App Store.

Re: Holding Apple Accountable: The Future of the Internet Economy Depends on It

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I don’t see Spotify making any suggestion of a solution that addresses their concerns without boxing Apple out of the payment process entirely. I get why what Apple has in place is onerous. I also see that Apple needs to get paid somehow. So what’s the third option? Edit: My vote for the third option has always been, and remains, allowing of side loading apps. And this can be only for users who enable it. But it seem…

> I also see that Apple needs to get paid somehow.

What makes Apple entitled to a cut of Spotify's revenue?

Re: Holding Apple Accountable: The Future of the Internet Economy Depends on It

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I don’t see Spotify making any suggestion of a solution that addresses their concerns without boxing Apple out of the payment process entirely. I get why what Apple has in place is onerous. I also see that Apple needs to get paid somehow. So what’s the third option? Edit: My vote for the third option has always been, and remains, allowing of side loading apps. And this can be only for users who enable it. But it seem…

I side with you. A bit tongue in cheek, the 3rd option will probably this here: sooner or later this is going to end in another anti-trust trial or at least here in Europe, in a another regulation attempt.

Re: Holding Apple Accountable: The Future of the Internet Economy Depends on It

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post #4

I don’t see Spotify making any suggestion of a solution that addresses their concerns without boxing Apple out of the payment process entirely. I get why what Apple has in place is onerous. I also see that Apple needs to get paid somehow. So what’s the third option? Edit: My vote for the third option has always been, and remains, allowing of side loading apps. And this can be only for users who enable it. But it seem…

> I also see that Apple needs to get paid somehow. What makes Apple entitled to a cut of Spotify's revenue?

What makes Walmart entitled to a cut of General Mills revenue?

Re: Holding Apple Accountable: The Future of the Internet Economy Depends on It

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I also see that Apple needs to get paid somehow. What makes Apple entitled to a cut of Spotify's revenue?

What makes Walmart entitled to a cut of General Mills revenue?

They're a retailer...?

Re: Holding Apple Accountable: The Future of the Internet Economy Depends on It

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I don’t know. Everyone wants the good audience, aka the audience that spends money, aka the iOS audience, but for cheaper.

It used to be that you got to that audience by doing something deplorable for a Hollywood film producer or a newspaper publisher in New York. Now you “just” have to pay a 30% fee. It turns out that deplorable acts scale a lot worse than eCommerce. And in my opinion, the deplorable approach denied us a lot more unique creative output than the 30% model does.

Spotify is right, sure. But these sorts of monopolies on audiences have existed forever.

Re: Holding Apple Accountable: The Future of the Internet Economy Depends on It

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>-Tell customers what our prices are to upgrade Premium membership options;

surely if I upgrade it tells me the price before I purchase the upgrade? they are complaining that they can't advertise it in the app?

>-Let our customers request an email or other communication telling them about the ways they can save money;

seems like "let our customers request" is doing a lot of work here

>-Provide our customers with different payment options beyond what Apple mandates (e.g. a credit card or PayPal, etc.); or

ah, so no crypto?

>-Deliver new product enhancements or introduce new features to our customers without Apple’s explicit approval.

so they don't want to have to be approved to be on the app store... aside from the fee, these are the fundamental complaints they list. seems a bit whiny imo.

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