C++Builder 11 Community Edition
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C++Builder 11 Community Edition
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Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition
#2Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition
#3The only VB like development experience for C++.
Microsoft completely messed up the XAML / C++/CX development experience with internal politics, only to have the team responsible for C++/WinRT going on to have fun in Rust/WinRT, leaving the former in maintenance state.
Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition
#4The only VB like development experience for C++. Microsoft completely messed up the XAML / C++/CX development experience with internal politics, only to have the team responsible for C++/WinRT going on to have fun in Rust/WinRT, leaving the former in maintenance state.
I can definitely understand them wanting to drop custom C++ extensions, but it's a shame they can't figure out how to provide a nice development experience for their newer UI platforms. If only .NET actually works reasonably well with it (and there's a huge managednative overhead) maybe it should have just been WPF 2.0?
Not that I would use WinUI anyway, microsoft cannot be trusted with UI frameworks anymore.
Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition
#5The only VB like development experience for C++. Microsoft completely messed up the XAML / C++/CX development experience with internal politics, only to have the team responsible for C++/WinRT going on to have fun in Rust/WinRT, leaving the former in maintenance state.
How good is C++ Builder? Ever tried? I Saw It a couple of years ago and it looked good actually but noone seems to use it.
Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition
#6The only VB like development experience for C++. Microsoft completely messed up the XAML / C++/CX development experience with internal politics, only to have the team responsible for C++/WinRT going on to have fun in Rust/WinRT, leaving the former in maintenance state.
I can definitely understand them wanting to drop custom C++ extensions, but it's a shame they can't figure out how to provide a nice development experience for their newer UI platforms. If only .NET actually works reasonably well with it (and there's a huge managed native overhead) maybe it should have just been WPF 2.0? Not that I would use WinUI anyway, microsoft cannot be trusted with UI frameworks anymore.
The custom C++ extensions argument is a very bad lame excuse, it isn't as if WinRT was ever going to be cross platform, or not every single C and C++ compiler used in production (not toy compilers) doesn't have their own set of extensions anyway.
I also don't consider anything related to WinUI/UWP trustworthy for production development, and I used to advocate for it.
Stuff like how .NET Native, C++/CX => C++/WinRT transition, UWP => WinUI were managed, is how they lost most of us that really liked WinRT.
Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition
#7The only VB like development experience for C++. Microsoft completely messed up the XAML / C++/CX development experience with internal politics, only to have the team responsible for C++/WinRT going on to have fun in Rust/WinRT, leaving the former in maintenance state.
How good is C++ Builder? Ever tried? I Saw It a couple of years ago and it looked good actually but noone seems to use it.
Like I described, is like using VB for the GUI stuff, coupled with the C++ capabilities.
Additionally it has a symbiotic relationship with Delphi, similarly to how C# and C++/CLI are integrated, only much better.
Nowadays the compiler backend is based in clang.
Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition
#8The only VB like development experience for C++. Microsoft completely messed up the XAML / C++/CX development experience with internal politics, only to have the team responsible for C++/WinRT going on to have fun in Rust/WinRT, leaving the former in maintenance state.
How good is C++ Builder? Ever tried? I Saw It a couple of years ago and it looked good actually but noone seems to use it.
Historically a great tool along with Delphi, with poor subsequent management/ownership since the very early 2000's.
Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition
#9Borland's C++ compiler was _fast_. And I mean eye wateringly fast on crappy pre-AMD64 hardware. I wonder if it supports modern C++ today and is still faster than other compilers. (If I am not mistaken this new edition is a offshoot of that?)
(Yeah I am not downloading the "Community" edition if I have to provide my name address and phone number. Really if your product needs mindshare and you offer community edition the least you can do is make it easily downloadable.)
Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition
#10You can only use this edition if you make less than 5000 USD and/or have less than 5 devs. If you do, licenses start at 1000 USD per year. Assuming a commercial app, of course.