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Starfield’s missing Nvidia DLSS support has been added by a free mod

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Re: Starfield’s missing Nvidia DLSS support has been added by a free mod

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It's an AMD sponsored game, so it's unlikely to get DLSS support. Digital Foundry's editor said he spoke to devs of 3 other games where AMD made them remove support for DLSS. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5H1OrKWYAANDPJ?format=png&name=...

To be fair, AMD also responded with this publicly, "AMD claims there’s nothing stopping Starfield from adding Nvidia DLSS": https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/25/22372077/amd-starfield-dl...

Re: Starfield’s missing Nvidia DLSS support has been added by a free mod

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post #4
post #2

It's an AMD sponsored game, so it's unlikely to get DLSS support. Digital Foundry's editor said he spoke to devs of 3 other games where AMD made them remove support for DLSS. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5H1OrKWYAANDPJ?format=png&name=...

To be fair, AMD also responded with this publicly, "AMD claims there’s nothing stopping Starfield from adding Nvidia DLSS": https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/25/22372077/amd-starfield-dl...

This is also mentioned at the end of the linked article.

> For anyone hoping for a more official (and less morally fraught) way to add DLSS support to Starfield, AMD hasn't completely ruled it out. In a recent interview with The Verge, AMD Gaming CEO Frank Azor said that "if they [Bethesda] want to do DLSS, they have AMD’s full support... If [our partners] ask us for DLSS support, we always tell them yes." No public word yet from Bethesda on whether that "if" will become a "when" any time soon.

Re: Starfield’s missing Nvidia DLSS support has been added by a free mod

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, AMD also responded with this publicly, "AMD claims there’s nothing stopping Starfield from adding Nvidia DLSS": https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/25/22372077/amd-starfield-dl...

This is also mentioned at the end of the linked article. > For anyone hoping for a more official (and less morally fraught) way to add DLSS support to Starfield, AMD hasn't completely ruled it out. In a recent interview with The Verge, AMD Gaming CEO Frank Azor said that "if they [Bethesda] want to do DLSS, they have AMD’s full support... If [our partners] ask us for DLSS support, we always tell them yes." No public…

These sorts of things are usually said with a wink.

Re: Starfield’s missing Nvidia DLSS support has been added by a free mod

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, AMD also responded with this publicly, "AMD claims there’s nothing stopping Starfield from adding Nvidia DLSS": https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/25/22372077/amd-starfield-dl...

This is also mentioned at the end of the linked article. > For anyone hoping for a more official (and less morally fraught) way to add DLSS support to Starfield, AMD hasn't completely ruled it out. In a recent interview with The Verge, AMD Gaming CEO Frank Azor said that "if they [Bethesda] want to do DLSS, they have AMD’s full support... If [our partners] ask us for DLSS support, we always tell them yes." No public…

What are they leaving out though? "Yes, sure, implement DLSS but then whatever money we're giving you will be 50% less. But you can implement it if you want!"

Re: Starfield’s missing Nvidia DLSS support has been added by a free mod

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post #2

It's an AMD sponsored game, so it's unlikely to get DLSS support. Digital Foundry's editor said he spoke to devs of 3 other games where AMD made them remove support for DLSS. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5H1OrKWYAANDPJ?format=png&name=...

To be fair, AMD also responded with this publicly, "AMD claims there’s nothing stopping Starfield from adding Nvidia DLSS": https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/25/22372077/amd-starfield-dl...

The relevant question isn't "are they doing it at this exact moment" though, it's "have they ever done this since DLSS2 launched". And GN specifically did ask them that, deliberately and repeatedly.

as GN said when they broke the story, the sensible PR move for AMD here is to quickly change the contracts and then go "there's nothing stopping devs!" and hope that nobody realizes the ink is still wet on the contracts.

Since they announced that, jedi survivor has suddenly announced DLSS support in an upcoming patch too. Wow, what a coincidence.

Again, this is a case of AMD already getting a ton of benefit of the doubt that wouldn't be awarded to any other megacorp here. If the tables were turned here, I doubt we would be equivocating about whether NVIDIA GPP really might have some benign goals and intentions, people would call a spade a spade and be done with it. Intel didn't get any benefit of the doubt on chipsets, people made a reasonable assertion they were doing it to sell more chipsets and that was the end of the dicussion for most people. But with AMD you have to exhaustively rule out any alternative possibilities and engage in lengthy discourse to disprove alternative "AMD is my friend" theories. Maybe they couldn't do X370 and X470 chipset support because, umm....

The chart looks pretty damning - really only sony seemed to get out of the provision. And now all of a sudden they come out with a statement after weeks and weeks of dramatic radio-silence (which of course NVIDIA did not do) that they "don't limit devs" (which wasn't the question) and suddenly studios are announcing they put it into games. Yeah, sounds like they dropped a new contract and took the terms out, and hope they can shout down anyone pointing out the implicit "anymore" in their statement.

https://i.redd.it/ev5skgvbw4bb1.png

Re: Starfield’s missing Nvidia DLSS support has been added by a free mod

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, AMD also responded with this publicly, "AMD claims there’s nothing stopping Starfield from adding Nvidia DLSS": https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/25/22372077/amd-starfield-dl...

This is also mentioned at the end of the linked article. > For anyone hoping for a more official (and less morally fraught) way to add DLSS support to Starfield, AMD hasn't completely ruled it out. In a recent interview with The Verge, AMD Gaming CEO Frank Azor said that "if they [Bethesda] want to do DLSS, they have AMD’s full support... If [our partners] ask us for DLSS support, we always tell them yes." No public…

> If [our partners] ask us for DLSS support...

The fact that they have to ask them if it's okay...

Re: Starfield’s missing Nvidia DLSS support has been added by a free mod

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Unlike DLSS, AMD's upscaling tech works cross vendor, so I am not sure what the big deal is. I have a 3080 and I don't notice any difference between DLSS and FSR on games, and Starfield is running fine and looks great at 4K with whatever the default settings are at 'High/Ultra'.
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