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Re: Subscriptions and external links help drive users to extremist YouTube channels

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Wow! You discovered YouTube will recommend videos from the same channels being watched. Beyond the brain-dead obviousness of this, who got to decide what is extremist or as the study also put it "alternative"? Since when is alternative media a bad thing?

This watering down of the concept of extremism is the dangerous part. YouTube doesn't host ISIS or KKK content. Videos from the opposite of your position on the political spectrum is not extremism.

The data comes from a survey and automated observation of just ~1,100 people. Super controlled, high quality, reliable source. /s

This is simple the Church of Science pulling its weight for the government that funds them.

Re: Subscriptions and external links help drive users to extremist YouTube channels

#3

Wow! You discovered YouTube will recommend videos from the same channels being watched. Beyond the brain-dead obviousness of this, who got to decide what is extremist or as the study also put it "alternative"? Since when is alternative media a bad thing? This watering down of the concept of extremism is the dangerous part. YouTube doesn't host ISIS or KKK content. Videos from the opposite of your position on the poli…

"oh no, the peasants are learning to read and think for themselves!" The current paradigm of what SV wants everyone to think should be acceptable free speech is psychotic.

Re: Subscriptions and external links help drive users to extremist YouTube channels

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Wow! You discovered YouTube will recommend videos from the same channels being watched. Beyond the brain-dead obviousness of this, who got to decide what is extremist or as the study also put it "alternative"? Since when is alternative media a bad thing? This watering down of the concept of extremism is the dangerous part. YouTube doesn't host ISIS or KKK content. Videos from the opposite of your position on the poli…

> who got to decide what is extremist or as the study also put it "alternative"?

That's explained in the paper:

> Our list of extremist channels consists of those labeled as white identitarian by Ledwich and Zaitsev (26) (30 channels), white supremacist by Charles (45) (23 channels), alt-right by Ribeiro et al. (24) (37 channels), extremist or hateful by the Center on Extremism at the Anti-Defamation League (16 channels), and those compiled by journalist Aaron Sankin from lists curated by the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Canadian Anti-Hate Network, the Counter Extremism Project, and the white supremacist website Stormfront (157 channels) (46).

Re: Subscriptions and external links help drive users to extremist YouTube channels

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Wow! You discovered YouTube will recommend videos from the same channels being watched. Beyond the brain-dead obviousness of this, who got to decide what is extremist or as the study also put it "alternative"? Since when is alternative media a bad thing? This watering down of the concept of extremism is the dangerous part. YouTube doesn't host ISIS or KKK content. Videos from the opposite of your position on the poli…

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Re: Subscriptions and external links help drive users to extremist YouTube channels

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> Do online platforms facilitate the consumption of potentially harmful content? Using paired behavioral and survey data provided by participants recruited from a representative sample in 2020 (n = 1181)

I question the value of any sociological research done in 2020, due to the extenuating circumstances that pervaded the lives of almost everyone in 2020, it's a bit like trying to do studies of population dynamics during the middle of a large scale war, there's a significant possible confounding factor in anything you measure.

Re: Subscriptions and external links help drive users to extremist YouTube channels

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I sometimes see the default YT homepage outside of my personal controlled usage (for example, on work laptop, or on a friend's chromecast). I am always shocked how many of the default suggestions are straight up rightwing nationalists and the like. I understand 'outrage' or reality-tv esqe topics always get attention, but there's difference between "Youtubers drama" and "Only people of $religion should exist in $country"?

Is YT simply asleep at the wheel? Are revenue people sitting in high offices simply too far away from social realities? Surely the money they're getting cannot be that much worth it?

Re: Subscriptions and external links help drive users to extremist YouTube channels

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post #7

> Do online platforms facilitate the consumption of potentially harmful content? Using paired behavioral and survey data provided by participants recruited from a representative sample in 2020 (n = 1181) I question the value of any sociological research done in 2020, due to the extenuating circumstances that pervaded the lives of almost everyone in 2020, it's a bit like trying to do studies of population dynamics dur…

Great point.

Re: Subscriptions and external links help drive users to extremist YouTube channels

#10

Wow! You discovered YouTube will recommend videos from the same channels being watched. Beyond the brain-dead obviousness of this, who got to decide what is extremist or as the study also put it "alternative"? Since when is alternative media a bad thing? This watering down of the concept of extremism is the dangerous part. YouTube doesn't host ISIS or KKK content. Videos from the opposite of your position on the poli…

Ending your post with “church of science” makes you appear to be extreme. It appears to me that you are an extremist and are lashing out because you feel this research is an attack on you personally. It is best to judge research as dispassionately as possible.
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