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We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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> A recent analysis showed that it could take up to 30 hours just to read the entirety of Zoom's terms and conditions

I wonder whether there's a single human being on Earth who has read the entire T&C word for word. I assume multiple authors drafted and edited specific chunks, so it may even be the case that even the lawyers who wrote it haven't read the full thing, yet users are expected to have done it in some vague but legally binding way.

Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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> A recent analysis showed that it could take up to 30 hours just to read the entirety of Zoom's terms and conditions I wonder whether there's a single human being on Earth who has read the entire T&C word for word. I assume multiple authors drafted and edited specific chunks, so it may even be the case that even the lawyers who wrote it haven't read the full thing, yet users are expected to have done it in some vagu…

> it may even be the case that even the lawyers who wrote it haven't read the full thing

idk. I thought lawyers loved billable hours. Maybe some poor intern at some law firm had to spend a few months reading the full thing over and over again until it all made sense to him :p

Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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As a Deaf person using sign language, Zoom is essential for virtual meetings as its the only platform I've used that consistently delivers acceptable video performance. Teams suffers from random issues that just crops up out of nowhere eg videos going blank, sudden reductions in bittate, periods of excessive dropped frames, etc. Google's platform (whatever its called these days) struggles to cope with multiple videos streams, descending into pixelated messes due to adapting down to incredibly low bitrates and regular dropped frames. Zoom is the only one I've come across that manages up to 25 simultaneous video streams without visible dropped frames and at reasonable resolutions and bitrates.

Am keen to know what realistic alternatives there are for virtual meetings for sign language users, delivering quality on par with or at least 'close enough' to Zoom. If theres a OSS solution that can do that out of the box it'd do very well indeed.

Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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> A recent analysis showed that it could take up to 30 hours just to read the entirety of Zoom's terms and conditions I wonder whether there's a single human being on Earth who has read the entire T&C word for word. I assume multiple authors drafted and edited specific chunks, so it may even be the case that even the lawyers who wrote it haven't read the full thing, yet users are expected to have done it in some vagu…

If it takes 30 hours to read, it will probably change before you're done reading it.

Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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Sure, when there's a consistent experience between browsers with decent echo-cancellation amongst other audio processing I'll be happy to move.

I don't want to get stuck on lowest common denominator WebRTC, that pales in comparison with a native application like Zoom.

Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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post #6

As a Deaf person using sign language, Zoom is essential for virtual meetings as its the only platform I've used that consistently delivers acceptable video performance. Teams suffers from random issues that just crops up out of nowhere eg videos going blank, sudden reductions in bittate, periods of excessive dropped frames, etc. Google's platform (whatever its called these days) struggles to cope with multiple videos…

I do software contract work for many blind and low vision people, and they also have had great things to say about Zoom's accessibility.
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