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Californian Roads Could Soon Have Speed Cameras Issuing Tickets

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Re: Californian Roads Could Soon Have Speed Cameras Issuing Tickets

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California keeps finding more reasons for me to never live there.

Cameras issuing tickets to people driving 11 miles over the speed limit "on streets that are hot spots for street racing, or are in school zones, or have a high number of collisions" is where you draw the line?

Re: Californian Roads Could Soon Have Speed Cameras Issuing Tickets

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post #3

California keeps finding more reasons for me to never live there.

Cameras issuing tickets to people driving 11 miles over the speed limit "on streets that are hot spots for street racing, or are in school zones, or have a high number of collisions" is where you draw the line?

Yes.

Re: Californian Roads Could Soon Have Speed Cameras Issuing Tickets

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From the article:

It would make California the 19th state to install cameras that would automatically issue tickets to the owners of vehicles that are spotted exceeding the speed limit by at least 11 miles an hour.

[...]

The fines could be reduced if the vehicle owner is unable to pay.

[...]

“We’re out to change behavior. We’re not out to be punitive.”

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So:

1. The unintended consequence is that more people may feel comfortable going 8-10 mph over the limit.

2. Those who can afford the $50 fine (which, knowing CA, is a big part of the population) without any other consequences will end up ignoring it and just paying the fee or using their significant wealth to fight the fees.

3. The rest of the people just won't pay it because they cannot afford it.

Re: Californian Roads Could Soon Have Speed Cameras Issuing Tickets

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From the article: It would make California the 19th state to install cameras that would automatically issue tickets to the owners of vehicles that are spotted exceeding the speed limit by at least 11 miles an hour. [...] The fines could be reduced if the vehicle owner is unable to pay. [...] “We’re out to change behavior. We’re not out to be punitive.” --- So: 1. The unintended consequence is that more people may fee…

and companies who install the cameras win big, while people who don't have their sh*t together enough to fill out the required I'm-poor forms correctly get screwed.

Re: Californian Roads Could Soon Have Speed Cameras Issuing Tickets

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post #3

California keeps finding more reasons for me to never live there.

Cameras issuing tickets to people driving 11 miles over the speed limit "on streets that are hot spots for street racing, or are in school zones, or have a high number of collisions" is where you draw the line?

One problem is who defines hot spot. The speed camera companies will gin up data showing that one road section at the bottom of a hill with a with speed limit of 30 is definetly a hot spot. Also politicians will get involved and speed cameras will be put in an area for consituent placation instead of for traffic safety.

Dont let the camels nose under the tent.

Re: Californian Roads Could Soon Have Speed Cameras Issuing Tickets

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From the article: It would make California the 19th state to install cameras that would automatically issue tickets to the owners of vehicles that are spotted exceeding the speed limit by at least 11 miles an hour. [...] The fines could be reduced if the vehicle owner is unable to pay. [...] “We’re out to change behavior. We’re not out to be punitive.” --- So: 1. The unintended consequence is that more people may fee…

and companies who install the cameras win big, while people who don't have their sh*t together enough to fill out the required I'm-poor forms correctly get screwed.

there is a company near UC Berkeley campus filled with people speaking some east slavic language, that has been making red-light cameras for at least ten years. They have expensive office space and no public signage.
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