Desktop Linux has a Firefox problem

> The love the Linux world has for Firefox is not reciprocated by Mozilla in the same way, and this shows in various places where issues fixed and addressed on the Windows side are ignored on the Linux side for years or longer.

> The best and most visible example of that is hardware video acceleration.

That's not "Desktop Linux has a Firefox problem", that's "Desktop Linux has a problem". hardware acceleration was always a pain to get working in linux, as a subset of the larger problem of linux video drivers having varying levels of support for the plethora of features that video cards need to do these days.

Things like this ultimately led me to my current Linux usage: Windows host, linux vm, fullscreened on its own virtual desktop.

If I need to do something that linux wasn't going to do efficiently, I do it in the windows host. Otherwise, I do it in the linux vm.

Anyway, I wonder if any of the problems this person is pointing out are going to be made better or worse by wayland

Re: Desktop Linux has a Firefox problem

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Post by edvinbesic » Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 9:06 PM UTC

> I’m genuinely worried about the state of browsers on Linux, and the future of Firefox on Linux in particular. I think it’s highly irresponsible of the various prominent players in the desktop Linux community, from GNOME to KDE, from Ubuntu to Fedora, to seemingly have absolutely zero contingency plans for when Firefox enshittifies or dies, despite everything we know about the current state of the browser market, the state of Mozilla’s finances, and the future prospects of both.

So what are you proposing then? It seems so irresponsible to complain about new-buzzword-shittification of something thousands of people contribute to and offer no contribution in return.

Re: Desktop Linux has a Firefox problem

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Post by teekert » Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 9:13 PM UTC

midasuni wrote: post #2

As a firefox and desktop linux user I don’t see any problem

Seconded, I have no issues. In fact when I’m not on ff I immediately miss the lack of cookie containers and get annoyed by the horrible need to log in to and out off different accounts all the time.

On ff I sync my add-ons, bookmarks and containers. What’s not to like?

Re: Desktop Linux has a Firefox problem

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Post by polyamid23 » Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 9:15 PM UTC

Is there a consensus on how correct browser market share calculations are? Google does apparently not even know what OS I am using.

Re: Desktop Linux has a Firefox problem

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb » Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 9:19 PM UTC

midasuni wrote: post #2

As a firefox and desktop linux user I don’t see any problem

Open a new tab and you’ll see advertisements in your homepage (which afaict you cannot change to a non default page)

Open a 1080p YouTube video and watch your processor get slammed. No, I do not want to install an unvetted third party plug-in. If nothing else, flag that the browser doesn’t support hardware acceleration when playing videos, in easy to understand terminology so I, and thousands of others don’t have to go troubleshoot exactly what is causing my computer to choke.

Re: Desktop Linux has a Firefox problem

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Post by logdap » Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 9:21 PM UTC

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Re: Desktop Linux has a Firefox problem

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb » Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 9:22 PM UTC

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #8

midasuni wrote: post #2

As a firefox and desktop linux user I don’t see any problem

Open a new tab and you’ll see advertisements in your homepage (which afaict you cannot change to a non default page) Open a 1080p YouTube video and watch your processor get slammed. No, I do not want to install an unvetted third party plug-in. If nothing else, flag that the browser doesn’t support hardware acceleration when playing videos, in easy to understand terminology so I, and thousands of others don’t have to…

Oh and maybe invest in actual Firefox development instead of whatever meme tech interests the executive this month…