Live data from Hacker News

Auditory illusions with examples from Daft Punk

ugu.rs

1–10 of 103 posts

Re: Auditory illusions with examples from Daft Punk

#2
Funny about them: I can hear the words either as "Mexican lucky" or "to get lucky" (the correct lyrics) depending on what I want to hear. Usually, once you know the right words, you can't hear anything else.

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-mexican-lucky-and-w...

Re: Auditory illusions with examples from Daft Punk

#3
for the Robot Rock one, the author should've clarified that it's not referring to the actual `rock. robot rock` voice part, but the part where the guitar chords sound like that. skip to about 1:50 in the linked video to hear the robot voice, then listen to how similar just the guitar chords after 2:00 sound like the robot voice saying `rock. robot rock.`

Re: Auditory illusions with examples from Daft Punk

#4
>Open the song Aerodynamic and fast-forward to 2:28, start listening to the passage. I hear the higher pitch on my right and the lower one on my left ear. What about you?

tbh I'm not sure which notes they're referring to here. There are a couple overlapping high/low pairs in that segment, and I'm not sure which is the octave/those frequencies.

One seems like higher is more in my left, but it clearly follows the left speaker on my headphones. The others warble around for me, though I'm pretty strongly right handed.

---

Even after reading and listening to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octave_illusion I'm totally lost as to what this post or wikipedia are describing. Are people hearing like:

    left ear        right ear
    -------------------------
    high                        (nothing in right ear)
                    low
    high       
                    low
or something else? I mostly hear:

    left ear       central       right ear
    --------------------------------------
    high           low           low
    low            low           high
    high           low           low
    low            low           high
I'm definitely hearing "low" while hearing "high" on the opposite ear, though it feels like there's a basically constant central "low" as well. The high tone clearly moves between sides.

Maybe worth mentioning: I've had a hearing test in the past year and I'm essentially completely balanced, so there likely isn't a tone-deafness issue on one side that could cause a reception imbalance. Could the illusion just be hearing damage? And then handedness just follows which ear takes more damage due to more noisy things happening / less protection on that side? That could also explain why left-handed people are less strongly sided, as they're forced to do things more balanced due to right-hand-only stuff existing.

Re: Auditory illusions with examples from Daft Punk

#5

Funny about them: I can hear the words either as "Mexican lucky" or "to get lucky" (the correct lyrics) depending on what I want to hear. Usually, once you know the right words, you can't hear anything else. https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-mexican-lucky-and-w...

"Legend of the penis"

"Rob a Mexican" etc

Re: Auditory illusions with examples from Daft Punk

#6

Funny about them: I can hear the words either as "Mexican lucky" or "to get lucky" (the correct lyrics) depending on what I want to hear. Usually, once you know the right words, you can't hear anything else. https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-mexican-lucky-and-w...

I've always liked the incorrect lyrics "we're robot Mexican monkeys". Not sure who first came up with that. I remember reading it on reddit back when the short preview clip of Get Lucky was released to great excitement.

Re: Auditory illusions with examples from Daft Punk

#7

for the Robot Rock one, the author should've clarified that it's not referring to the actual `rock. robot rock` voice part, but the part where the guitar chords sound like that . skip to about 1:50 in the linked video to hear the robot voice, then listen to how similar just the guitar chords after 2:00 sound like the robot voice saying `rock. robot rock.`

You are right. That part seems a little bit vague, I will update it.

Re: Auditory illusions with examples from Daft Punk

#8

Funny about them: I can hear the words either as "Mexican lucky" or "to get lucky" (the correct lyrics) depending on what I want to hear. Usually, once you know the right words, you can't hear anything else. https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-mexican-lucky-and-w...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qN1fVkeSUXE

I wonder how many people knew the correct lyrics before this commercial, I certainly did not

Re: Auditory illusions with examples from Daft Punk

#9

for the Robot Rock one, the author should've clarified that it's not referring to the actual `rock. robot rock` voice part, but the part where the guitar chords sound like that . skip to about 1:50 in the linked video to hear the robot voice, then listen to how similar just the guitar chords after 2:00 sound like the robot voice saying `rock. robot rock.`

...and the author should have clarified that this Daft Punk song is copied from a 1980's single: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b0jWlPtP5o

Re: Auditory illusions with examples from Daft Punk

#10
post #4

> Open the song Aerodynamic and fast-forward to 2:28, start listening to the passage. I hear the higher pitch on my right and the lower one on my left ear. What about you? tbh I'm not sure which notes they're referring to here. There are a couple overlapping high/low pairs in that segment, and I'm not sure which is the octave/those frequencies. One seems like higher is more in my left, but it clearly follows the left…

It's the Shepard tone effect running in the background of the actual notes, which produce a mild illusion that they're ascending when they're not, but nevertheless they're moving up and then down in pitches so it's not a brilliant example. I think the author is a little confused in this short essay about a few things. His "talking piano" effect is just standard vocoding, which has made me think this is all fairly new to him and he's not an expert.

THIS is a talking piano: https://youtu.be/muCPjK4nGY4

Post reply on HN