Everyone Wants to Work at Ups After Teamsters Deal
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Everyone Wants to Work at Ups After Teamsters Deal
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#2We've heard so much abut how people just don't want to work, but it turns out that when people can get decent wages and working conditions they'll rush to line up for jobs. UPS should have little trouble finding and keeping great employees.
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#3We've heard so much abut how people just don't want to work, but it turns out that when people can get decent wages and working conditions they'll rush to line up for jobs. UPS should have little trouble finding and keeping great employees.
At what point do you just have robots deliver packages though? The downside is that the higher the pay today the sooner more jobs are automated out. Is paying someone the salary of a doctor to carry packages to a house sustainable?
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#4We've heard so much abut how people just don't want to work, but it turns out that when people can get decent wages and working conditions they'll rush to line up for jobs. UPS should have little trouble finding and keeping great employees.
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#5We've heard so much abut how people just don't want to work, but it turns out that when people can get decent wages and working conditions they'll rush to line up for jobs. UPS should have little trouble finding and keeping great employees.
At what point do you just have robots deliver packages though? The downside is that the higher the pay today the sooner more jobs are automated out. Is paying someone the salary of a doctor to carry packages to a house sustainable?
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Re: Everyone Wants to Work at Ups After Teamsters Deal
#6We've heard so much abut how people just don't want to work, but it turns out that when people can get decent wages and working conditions they'll rush to line up for jobs. UPS should have little trouble finding and keeping great employees.
At what point do you just have robots deliver packages though? The downside is that the higher the pay today the sooner more jobs are automated out. Is paying someone the salary of a doctor to carry packages to a house sustainable?
> At what point do you just have robots deliver packages though?
At the point where it becomes cheaper and more reliable than hiring humans to do the work. Right now, we don't have the technology do the job well and do it under all required conditions, but once that changes we should absolutely replace the human workers with robots so that humans are freed up to focus their efforts on other things.
> Is paying someone the salary of a doctor to carry packages to a house sustainable?
The majority of unionized workers at UPS are only working part time and under the new contract they'll make $21 an hour to start, eventually making $23 an hour. I suspect that doctors tend to make more than that, and if they don't they should probably get themselves a strong union too.
Re: Everyone Wants to Work at Ups After Teamsters Deal
#7We've heard so much abut how people just don't want to work, but it turns out that when people can get decent wages and working conditions they'll rush to line up for jobs. UPS should have little trouble finding and keeping great employees.
At what point do you just have robots deliver packages though? The downside is that the higher the pay today the sooner more jobs are automated out. Is paying someone the salary of a doctor to carry packages to a house sustainable?
I don’t understand this idea of not paying people a good salary just because they are not doctors.
If people want to get packages delivered to their house, they should pay for it, and they should pay enough so it is sustainable. If you are not able or don’t want to walk to a central package collection station you can pay a premium.
Should only doctors be able to afford rent ?
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#8We've heard so much abut how people just don't want to work, but it turns out that when people can get decent wages and working conditions they'll rush to line up for jobs. UPS should have little trouble finding and keeping great employees.
At what point do you just have robots deliver packages though? The downside is that the higher the pay today the sooner more jobs are automated out. Is paying someone the salary of a doctor to carry packages to a house sustainable?
I think you're vastly underestimating the complexity of the task.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
At what point do you just have robots deliver packages though? The downside is that the higher the pay today the sooner more jobs are automated out. Is paying someone the salary of a doctor to carry packages to a house sustainable?
I don’t understand this idea of not paying people a good salary just because they are not doctors. If people want to get packages delivered to their house, they should pay for it, and they should pay enough so it is sustainable. If you are not able or don’t want to walk to a central package collection station you can pay a premium. Should only doctors be able to afford rent ?
These issues are mostly separate.
As a society, we need doctor's to make more money than delivery drivers because we expect them to be smart, competent, diligent, and extensively trained (sometimes for >10 years). You will not get enough doctors that meet this bar if you don't heavily incentivize them to sacrifice a huge portion of their life to achieve excellence in their craft.
Home prices are high mostly because our society has promised the demographic with the highest voter turnout (old folks and property owners) that their homes will fund their 10+ year retirement - a time when discretionary spending jumps dramatically. Anything that threatens these high home prices is shut down immediately by the voting portion of the public. As a result "A good salary" can't afford rent.
Re: Everyone Wants to Work at Ups After Teamsters Deal
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t understand this idea of not paying people a good salary just because they are not doctors. If people want to get packages delivered to their house, they should pay for it, and they should pay enough so it is sustainable. If you are not able or don’t want to walk to a central package collection station you can pay a premium. Should only doctors be able to afford rent ?
These issues are mostly separate. As a society, we need doctor's to make more money than delivery drivers because we expect them to be smart, competent, diligent, and extensively trained (sometimes for >10 years). You will not get enough doctors that meet this bar if you don't heavily incentivize them to sacrifice a huge portion of their life to achieve excellence in their craft. Home prices are high mostly because o…
I think doctors should be paid enough so they don't need to worry about making ends meet. I don't want the guy operating me to worry where he'll sleep because the landlord kicked them out.
Same thing for delivery drivers, though. I want the delivery driver to make enough money so he'll actually drive up to my house and drop off the package, and not be distracted by money troubles while he drives past my kids biking on the street.
Every person deserves a livable wage, and there's no reason that people who start working earlier should struggle all their life to make ends meet, just so the better educated people get cheap deliveries.