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Re: Vim Boss

#4
I once interviewed an intern candidate who bragged about getting into an argument with Bram on the mailing lists over a possible vulnerability. Bram insisted it was not important, and this young gun insisted it was.

We didn't hire the guy. It's interesting seeing these memorials for Bram, from what people say he was the polar opposite of this kid in a good way.

Re: Vim Boss

#5

It is nice to see tasteful and profitable disagreement in place of simple drama. It's a credit to all parties.

sorry, what disagreement? I didn't find any in the article.

The implied disagreement for why neovim exists to provide functionality that wouldn’t have been merged into vim.

Re: Vim Boss

#6

It is nice to see tasteful and profitable disagreement in place of simple drama. It's a credit to all parties.

sorry, what disagreement? I didn't find any in the article.

Some people take issue with NeoVim, because they believe it splits the Vim community and takes people power away from Vim development.

Re: Vim Boss

#7
I'm shocked. I've been a vim user my whole life. I use neovim lately, but I didn't even know Bram was dead. I've never interacted with him personally, but I've interacted with the tool he wrote and the documentation he wrote almost on a daily basis. Vim is part of me.

I know the project will likely continue, but I can't help but thinking: what now?

It brings up this issue of death in software for me. Software is getting old enough now that it is starting to outlive its authors. RIP Anthony Grimes and Ian Murdock. I have used both of these men's software after their demise[1][2], and I am grateful for it.

However, it does make me think. Grimes' software continues to have issues filed against it[3] by folks unaware that no one is getting notifications for them. On the other hand, Debian was popular enough to continue after Ian's passing, and continues to gain momentum.

I know it might be too soon for me to wonder about these questions to an audience. These were the giants on whose shoulders we continue to work today. I'm glad their code persists.

1: https://github.com/Raynes/fs

2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Murdock

3: https://github.com/Raynes/fs/pulls

Re: Vim Boss

#8
So often we hear after someone dies how great they really where when infact they were like most people, a mixed bag. We all have ups and downs etc.

There are some though that really do live up to the postmortem messages and for sure Bram is one of them, i was lucky to meet him and actually spend some time shooting shit with him. At the time i didn't realize how big a deal he was, it was only later i would actually get to know and appreciate VIM, but from all of that it made me appreciate him a lot more. So when I read these kind of posts i can't help feel sad of course but I do get shivers of how damn ossum he really was. The testimonials to him hit so hard knowing they're 100% genuine. We need more like him, he will be really missed.

Re: Vim Boss

#9

I'm shocked. I've been a vim user my whole life. I use neovim lately, but I didn't even know Bram was dead. I've never interacted with him personally, but I've interacted with the tool he wrote and the documentation he wrote almost on a daily basis. Vim is part of me. I know the project will likely continue, but I can't help but thinking: what now? It brings up this issue of death in software for me. Software is gett…

Bram Moolenaar's passing became public last Saturday:

Bram Moolenaar has died - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37011324 (4272 points, 430 comments)

Re: Vim Boss

#10
Thanks Bram.

I've been using Vim (and sometimes more recently Neovim) for over 30 years (nearly every work day of my entire career), having used `vi` on various BSD systems in school. In all that time, I've never been on the mailing list for Vim, asked a question or submitted a bug report. I've never needed to do so. Because I've never run into a bug or had a question that couldn't be answered by the built in documentation.

A quality software project, lead by a quality man. You've been an inspiration.

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