“Web Environment Integrity”: Locking Down the Web
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#2I'm sure Tom Scott wouldn't mind better personal attestation options on the Web: https://www.yahoo.com/now/prominent-youtuber-claims-brave-ba...
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#3I personally think the upsides of WebBundles are huge. There's nothing that would stop the browser from being able to filter & ignore content coming from in a WebBundle, so I'm not sure what Brave's greivance is here. The adserving topic is complicated as heck, but everyone seems to acknowledge big change is necessary & Google and Firefox both have proposals to radically overhaul the system while enhancing user privacy; Brave's own primary distinguisher at this point is their BAT tokens, their own answer here. There's complicated topics here, but I see Brave following the standard pattern of trying to be a lightning rod of discontent.
It's also surprising to me how almost no one has commented on Private Access Tokens shipping for Apple. Which do the same thing. Here's them bragging about being able to avoid catchpa's since the devices are all vouched for by Apple as unmodified & controlled by Apple: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2022/10077/
There was a decent submission on this recently, but not much engagement. https://www.snellman.net/blog/archive/2023-07-25-web-integri... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36866355
I think this is absolutely the worst shit, almost as bad as MV3 being a utterly neutered shitty hell hole version of what web extensions were. But it's notable to me that both Google didn't start this particular trend, Apple did, and more broadly - I have such a hard time picking words here - it feels like the stark polemics have been on overdrive to create a reality distortion field, where Chrome is purely bad/evil/awful/no-good everywhere. We should be upset & mad! But I feel like we're pretty far into losing our minds territory, and slipping into strokes of broadsweeping public madness.
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#4"Brave's browsers" distributions of browsers, there ftfy
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#5Hard to listen to anything from a company that constantly:
1) Doesn’t innovate on anything, social media accounts are plagued with pointing fingers at others while using a Chromium fork themselves, ignorance at its finest.
2) Has been accused of selling copyrighted data for AI training and has not made a public statement.
3) Has a history of making stupid decisions and only apologizing when a big news outlet calls them out.
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#6I'm sure Tom Scott wouldn't mind better personal attestation options on the Web: https://www.yahoo.com/now/prominent-youtuber-claims-brave-ba...
Interesting, I'm a fan of Tom's and agree with this take but have not known about it before now!
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#7Hard to listen to anything from a company that constantly: 1) Doesn’t innovate on anything, social media accounts are plagued with pointing fingers at others while using a Chromium fork themselves, ignorance at its finest. 2) Has been accused of selling copyrighted data for AI training and has not made a public statement. 3) Has a history of making stupid decisions and only apologizing when a big news outlet calls th…
Seems like a biased opinion. Brave and their products innovate a LOT. Browser, (good) search engine, crypto as a way to keep websites profitable, etc.
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#8"Brave's browsers" distributions of browsers , there ftfy
"We are a fork, have been all along"
Re: “Web Environment Integrity”: Locking Down the Web
#9Hard to listen to anything from a company that constantly: 1) Doesn’t innovate on anything, social media accounts are plagued with pointing fingers at others while using a Chromium fork themselves, ignorance at its finest. 2) Has been accused of selling copyrighted data for AI training and has not made a public statement. 3) Has a history of making stupid decisions and only apologizing when a big news outlet calls th…
Seems like a biased opinion. Brave and their products innovate a LOT. Browser, (good) search engine, crypto as a way to keep websites profitable, etc.
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#10What is Brave going to do when the code for WEI becomes load bearing in the chromium code base?
Still excuse after excuse after excuse to just not use Firefox. I literally don't care if you have to hold up your nose, there's only one actual alternative browser engine, and it's a matter of survival for anyone who doesn't want the whole internet controlled by google.
It could be half as fast (it isn't) and use twice as much RAM (it doesn't) and ask for a damn nude photo of me and I'd still be using it right now.
Using a google owned browser engine is like growing cavendish bananas while you know the neighbor's farm has the blight already. Change over and try to get good at the new strain while you have a choice, because soon you won't and it will be out of your hands what happens after that.