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Re: Coursera / Stanford PGM Class is Open

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PGM-class looks pretty hardcore. Well done Prof. Koller & Coursera team. Glad that Coursera and MITx are not watering down the material for any of their online courses.

This has been my main complaint with the Autonomous Vehicles class ran by Udacity I've done thus far. I don't think 30 minutes of video lecture per week can cover close to what an actual college class can. I ended up having to read ~2 hours on Kalman filters after completing the homework to get to a point where I actually felt like I understood the topic as well as I would in an actual class.

Re: Coursera / Stanford PGM Class is Open

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PGM-class looks pretty hardcore. Well done Prof. Koller & Coursera team. Glad that Coursera and MITx are not watering down the material for any of their online courses.

This has been my main complaint with the Autonomous Vehicles class ran by Udacity I've done thus far. I don't think 30 minutes of video lecture per week can cover close to what an actual college class can. I ended up having to read ~2 hours on Kalman filters after completing the homework to get to a point where I actually felt like I understood the topic as well as I would in an actual class.

Exactly, Udacity courses have around 50 minutes of lectures per week and 6 weeks of lectures. In total just 5 hours of lectures for the whole duration of the course. I don't believe anything substantial can be taught in such a short duration. On the other hand, most of MITx, and Coursera courses run for 10-14 weeks with 2-3hrs of lectures per week with additional assigned readings for some courses.

I personally had pretty bad experience with Udacity's AI-class last year, IMHO their teaching material is mediocre at best. I don't plan to waste any of my time on their classes specially when there are so many other better options available.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has been my main complaint with the Autonomous Vehicles class ran by Udacity I've done thus far. I don't think 30 minutes of video lecture per week can cover close to what an actual college class can. I ended up having to read ~2 hours on Kalman filters after completing the homework to get to a point where I actually felt like I understood the topic as well as I would in an actual class.

Exactly, Udacity courses have around 50 minutes of lectures per week and 6 weeks of lectures. In total just 5 hours of lectures for the whole duration of the course. I don't believe anything substantial can be taught in such a short duration. On the other hand, most of MITx, and Coursera courses run for 10-14 weeks with 2-3hrs of lectures per week with additional assigned readings for some courses. I personally had p…

I like the Udacity Robot AI course but I can see that it is dumed down. If the course wheren't I probebly would not have the time to talk it.

I trie do to Udacity Robot AI, Coursera Algo 1 and PGM. Lets see if I can handle that. My math background is much to thin and all the math stuff gives me a hard time.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has been my main complaint with the Autonomous Vehicles class ran by Udacity I've done thus far. I don't think 30 minutes of video lecture per week can cover close to what an actual college class can. I ended up having to read ~2 hours on Kalman filters after completing the homework to get to a point where I actually felt like I understood the topic as well as I would in an actual class.

Exactly, Udacity courses have around 50 minutes of lectures per week and 6 weeks of lectures. In total just 5 hours of lectures for the whole duration of the course. I don't believe anything substantial can be taught in such a short duration. On the other hand, most of MITx, and Coursera courses run for 10-14 weeks with 2-3hrs of lectures per week with additional assigned readings for some courses. I personally had p…

While I agree with everything you said, I kind of liked the AI-class because it was so short and superficial. I felt it gave me a very high level overview of field without taking up too much of my time.

So while the Coursera courses are better in the sense that they cover the material in much more detail and require that you understand the material much better to do the assignments, they end up being much harder for me to squeeze into my already hectic schedule. So in the end I think there is space for both approaches.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, Udacity courses have around 50 minutes of lectures per week and 6 weeks of lectures. In total just 5 hours of lectures for the whole duration of the course. I don't believe anything substantial can be taught in such a short duration. On the other hand, most of MITx, and Coursera courses run for 10-14 weeks with 2-3hrs of lectures per week with additional assigned readings for some courses. I personally had p…

While I agree with everything you said, I kind of liked the AI-class because it was so short and superficial. I felt it gave me a very high level overview of field without taking up too much of my time. So while the Coursera courses are better in the sense that they cover the material in much more detail and require that you understand the material much better to do the assignments, they end up being much harder for…

That is precisely why udacity courses are gaining popularity. They give you a false sense of accomplishment when actually the learning is very superficial.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree with everything you said, I kind of liked the AI-class because it was so short and superficial. I felt it gave me a very high level overview of field without taking up too much of my time. So while the Coursera courses are better in the sense that they cover the material in much more detail and require that you understand the material much better to do the assignments, they end up being much harder for…

That is precisely why udacity courses are gaining popularity. They give you a false sense of accomplishment when actually the learning is very superficial.

Indeed, but there is nothing inherently wrong with superficial knowledge (as long you realize it is superficial). Before the AI-course I knew absolutely nothing about the field, now I know enough to start matching problem domains to techniques. Obviously I learnt nothing useful about how to actually implement those techniques, but at least I know what words to start googling for.

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree with everything you said, I kind of liked the AI-class because it was so short and superficial. I felt it gave me a very high level overview of field without taking up too much of my time. So while the Coursera courses are better in the sense that they cover the material in much more detail and require that you understand the material much better to do the assignments, they end up being much harder for…

That is precisely why udacity courses are gaining popularity. They give you a false sense of accomplishment when actually the learning is very superficial.

> They give you a false sense of accomplishment when actually the learning is very superficial.

I disagree. Although I've only taken one so far (search engines), and I knew basic Python before taking the course. I like the small weekly practice sessions because they provide just enough breadth to prompt me to seek more depth, run pydoc, etc.

I find it more interesting to learn the standard library and take away a better understanding in this format, as opposed to reading a book or the documentation straight through.

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