Tesla exaggerated EV range so much that drivers thought cars were broken
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Re: Tesla exaggerated EV range so much that drivers thought cars were broken
#2Stories like this make me wonder how much software is out there straight up lying to everyone and we just don’t know it.
I’ve been asked to build tools that round up or down wherever possible, to just add a little polish to how the data is presented. But nothing like this. It definitely makes me weary about future where everything runs on software.
Re: Tesla exaggerated EV range so much that drivers thought cars were broken
#3There's no getting around cold climates re: limited EV range like the guy in the article. It makes me wonder if there's a geographic pattern to the issues and if the 'optimistic' mode is ignoring outside temperature.
Cold climates also prevent any sort of absolute positioning awareness based autonomous driving since in winter the road lane positions are emergent and more of a function of human flocking than the underlying obscured road markings or edges.
Re: Tesla exaggerated EV range so much that drivers thought cars were broken
#4Stories like this make me wonder how much software is out there straight up lying to everyone and we just don’t know it. I’ve been asked to build tools that round up or down wherever possible, to just add a little polish to how the data is presented. But nothing like this. It definitely makes me weary about future where everything runs on software.
Uber greyball, VW emissions test profilers, Tesla range shenanigans.
Seems we should default to assuming it lies until otherwise proven.
Re: Tesla exaggerated EV range so much that drivers thought cars were broken
#5Big discussion of original source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36891642
Re: Tesla exaggerated EV range so much that drivers thought cars were broken
#6Stories like this make me wonder how much software is out there straight up lying to everyone and we just don’t know it. I’ve been asked to build tools that round up or down wherever possible, to just add a little polish to how the data is presented. But nothing like this. It definitely makes me weary about future where everything runs on software.
Have you ever tried to reach advertised mpg (or l/100km) on gasoline car?
It’s not the software. Everyone is lying.
Re: Tesla exaggerated EV range so much that drivers thought cars were broken
#7What does the Tesla firmware look like? Is the car tamper proof — is it a Trusted Platform? Any good links on picking apart the car software would be gratefully received.
Re: Tesla exaggerated EV range so much that drivers thought cars were broken
#8Stories like this make me wonder how much software is out there straight up lying to everyone and we just don’t know it. I’ve been asked to build tools that round up or down wherever possible, to just add a little polish to how the data is presented. But nothing like this. It definitely makes me weary about future where everything runs on software.
Have you ever tried to reach advertised mpg (or l/100km) on gasoline car? It’s not the software. Everyone is lying.
I frequently exceed it on mine as well as on rental cars. It really depends on one's driving style.
Coasting to upcoming red lights/stop signs and accelerating at a gentler pace make a big difference, as well as driving the speed limit on the highway.
Re: Tesla exaggerated EV range so much that drivers thought cars were broken
#9Stories like this make me wonder how much software is out there straight up lying to everyone and we just don’t know it. I’ve been asked to build tools that round up or down wherever possible, to just add a little polish to how the data is presented. But nothing like this. It definitely makes me weary about future where everything runs on software.
If there’s profit to be made from lying, assume the worst. In Tesla’s case, the rosy picture was to convince people who had range anxiety over EVs as well as look better against the competition.
Re: Tesla exaggerated EV range so much that drivers thought cars were broken
#10Stories like this make me wonder how much software is out there straight up lying to everyone and we just don’t know it. I’ve been asked to build tools that round up or down wherever possible, to just add a little polish to how the data is presented. But nothing like this. It definitely makes me weary about future where everything runs on software.
Have you ever tried to reach advertised mpg (or l/100km) on gasoline car? It’s not the software. Everyone is lying.
For many years, I got better-than-advertised mpg with a Honda Civic. My more recent vehicles, though, don't quite reach their claimed mpg. Is this "everyone lying" a new phenomenon, or is Honda an exception from "everyone"?