The problem with Google+ (API Edition)
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The problem with Google+ (API Edition)
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Re: The problem with Google+ (API Edition)
#2The third-party app issue is not as big a problem if you use Android. You are able to share pretty much anything with the Google+ app, it's just not automatic.
And given how the first few weeks of "frictionless sharing" was, I'm kinda glad I don't have that many people spamming me with content more suitable for Twitter.
Re: The problem with Google+ (API Edition)
#3The third-party app issue is not as big a problem if you use Android. You are able to share pretty much anything with the Google+ app, it's just not automatic. And given how the first few weeks of "frictionless sharing" was, I'm kinda glad I don't have that many people spamming me with content more suitable for Twitter.
I don't think it is reasonable to expect everyone to just "use Android".
The public in general is just going to use whatever apps and products work for them. It is the organisations role to adapt their products in a way that a large enough majority wants to use it. Or accept that their product is not going to be as popular.
That is the situation we are in at the moment. Anyone who is more than a casual user of social media expects alot more, scheduling content, tracking, proper statistics, updates from 3rd party apps. If you don't keep up with the competition, you will be ignored. As we have seen.
I don't buy that excuse of "overwhelming streams" from Vic Gundotra because Google+ has great controls for the amount of content you see in your main stream, and with circles it is a powerful way of categorising your content and accessing only what you want. Plus, when managed correctly, an API agreement with a select number of partners could give way to more user adoption without giving away full control.
Re: The problem with Google+ (API Edition)
#4The third-party app issue is not as big a problem if you use Android. You are able to share pretty much anything with the Google+ app, it's just not automatic. And given how the first few weeks of "frictionless sharing" was, I'm kinda glad I don't have that many people spamming me with content more suitable for Twitter.
I don't think it is reasonable to expect everyone to just "use Android". The public in general is just going to use whatever apps and products work for them. It is the organisations role to adapt their products in a way that a large enough majority wants to use it. Or accept that their product is not going to be as popular. That is the situation we are in at the moment. Anyone who is more than a casual user of social…
Holy cow Google+ needs apps. I know Windows Phone isn't a huge market, but their mobile site is completely broken and non-functional (and Google has other WP7 apps released). It looks like it was designed for WAP browsers. Night and day doesn't begin to describe how different the Android app is from the mobile website.
I'd just create a G+ app myself, but... well that's what this story is about, isn't it? You can't.
Re: The problem with Google+ (API Edition)
#5Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think it is reasonable to expect everyone to just "use Android". The public in general is just going to use whatever apps and products work for them. It is the organisations role to adapt their products in a way that a large enough majority wants to use it. Or accept that their product is not going to be as popular. That is the situation we are in at the moment. Anyone who is more than a casual user of social…
Holy cow Google+ needs apps. I know Windows Phone isn't a huge market, but their mobile site is completely broken and non-functional (and Google has other WP7 apps released). It looks like it was designed for WAP browsers. Night and day doesn't begin to describe how different the Android app is from the mobile website. I'd just create a G+ app myself, but... well that's what this story is about, isn't it? You can't.
I have written quite a bit about the fundamental issues with Google+. One of the major issues is the existing app (they broke it on iPhone 3G with an update, it was broken for 3 weeks). Another is the massive UI flaws, both browser, mobile and app based.
It is clear that they have taken the Agile methodology of "Only do the work that is absolutely required" to a completely new meaning. (Forgive me if I misquoted someone there).
Re: The problem with Google+ (API Edition)
#6Is this not simply the same reason the Facebook API does not allow you to send messages to users: spam prevention?
I prefer G+ right now because it has a low spam ratio, unlike my Facebook feed, so if this is the reason for disallowing write access, I align with it.
Re: The problem with Google+ (API Edition)
#7Is this not simply the same reason the Facebook API does not allow you to send messages to users: spam prevention? I prefer G+ right now because it has a low spam ratio, unlike my Facebook feed, so if this is the reason for disallowing write access, I align with it.
I understand the spam prevention idea, which is great that they are keeping some control.
All I'm doing it pointing out that keeping Google+ too closed is why countless articles and technology people are saying it is dead. It's dead because no one wants to share content on it, because Google are purposefully restricting the freedom to do so which people are used to.