Don't Learn Value from Society
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Don't Learn Value from Society
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#2And this upper middle class is some sort of paragon of sobriety? Half of Americans are on psycho drugs.
Look at Peterson, he is very intelligent and educated, yet in real life he was drug addict, who almost died from overdose.
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#3And this upper middle class is some sort of paragon of sobriety? Half of Americans are on psycho drugs. Look at Peterson, he is very intelligent and educated, yet in real life he was drug addict, who almost died from overdose.
Source?
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#4And this upper middle class is some sort of paragon of sobriety? Half of Americans are on psycho drugs. Look at Peterson, he is very intelligent and educated, yet in real life he was drug addict, who almost died from overdose.
Source?
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#5I don't follow how society's not a reliable source of values, which I agree in principle, but Abraham (that we only know of thanks to spotty written records post-fact) is.
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#6For those unaware: Palladium is a far-right magazine bankrolled by Peter Thiel. This is written by one of its two co-founders, the one who hasn’t yet been publicly outed as a white nationalist[1].
[1]: https://splinternews.com/leaked-emails-show-how-white-nation...
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#7I don't follow how society's not a reliable source of values, which I agree in principle, but Abraham (that we only know of thanks to spotty written records post-fact) is.
> Three millennia ago, man once again struggled to find reality between the proliferation of false idols. Every city in Mesopotamia, then the richest and most developed center of civilization, had its own cults and gods. For a camp of nomadic herdsmen like Terah and his son Abram, it all looked very suspicious.
This seems to be the main thrust. Abraham : Mesopotamia :: Trad values : Modern society's values. A flimsy argument that comes from an extremely shallow understanding of what little we know of ancient history.
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#8For those unaware: Palladium is a far-right magazine bankrolled by Peter Thiel. This is written by one of its two co-founders, the one who hasn’t yet been publicly outed as a white nationalist[1]. [1]: https://splinternews.com/leaked-emails-show-how-white-nation...
That explains a lot! The article was pretty insightful up until the point where it mentioned Abraham. Far right figures can be very incisive about some of the issues facing modern society, the problem is that their solution is very often to revert to traditional norms.
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#9I'm skeptical of this style of writing. If I'd have the power/were a mod... I would remove it even if it doesn't break any rules.
Allegedly, all of the author's friends are dead, and this is a widespread problem. This happenes everywhere, society is at fault. - What we hear is baseless (there are no links provided). It's pretty far from my experience as a human (however, I am not US based).
The tone of the text is very low on specifics, and it's spoken at a 3rd person always talking about others, about how society behaves, about what others do and how others feel. - This style is usually a projection of someone's thoughts. In my experience I've had lots to learn by talking about my own values and how they developed over time. Also hearing others talk about their own experience directly proved valuable. All I'm seeing in this text is "I judge X, I judge Y". That scares me.
These are 2 of the red flags I have to detect problematic philosophical wiring. Is it specific? Is it personal/direct experience? Negative answers suggest I should avoid this piece.
[EDIT] I did not get to the end of the piece and thus I do not argue about content here. Red flags triggered for me in 5-6 distinct paragraphs. Enough for me to decide I should avoid the rest (and that I should write this comment).
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#10Another excellent example on this front is Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson, by any sort of fundamental interpretation of religion, would have been a heretic, or worse, in a time when religion was still a fundamental component of society. He espoused Christianity, but rejected the virgin birth, resurrection, and various other miracles in the Bible. He actually even composed his own 'bible' by [literally] cutting and pasting sections of the bible (across multiple languages no less) into a new book - the 'Jefferson Bible.' [1] And he made no secret of his views. Discovering this increased my respect for him by orders of magnitude.
If we all abided values only because those values made sense to us, then I think the world would not only be a much more interesting place, but also probably a much better one. It's so weird to see so many people simply claim to believe things that they probably don't, simply because it's socially expected or convenient to claim to believe them. We're only here for ~80 years, spending this time deceiving others, or even worse - yourself, just doesn't make any sense.