No cyber resilience without open source sustainability
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Re: No cyber resilience without open source sustainability
#2If you live in the EC area, there's a link on the blog to contact to MEP.
The blog also links to other posts from OSS organisations sharing the same concer.
* https://blogs.eclipse.org/post/mike-milinkovich/european-cyb...
* https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2023/04/the-eus-proposed-cra-la...
* https://blog.opensource.org/the-ultimate-list-of-reactions-t...
Re: No cyber resilience without open source sustainability
#3I wonder if this is precisely their motivation ;)
Re: No cyber resilience without open source sustainability
#4Donations are often, if not most of the times, ways for companies to avoid having to pay taxes I wonder if this is precisely their motivation ;)
Re: No cyber resilience without open source sustainability
#5TL;DR The EU is working on the Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) which will be voted on the 19th of July. The current wording makes it look like it will affect open source projects that receice donations; which have contribution from corporate developers; and might break coordinated vulnerability disclousure. If you live in the EC area, there's a link on the blog to contact to MEP. The blog also links to other posts from OS…
Re: No cyber resilience without open source sustainability
#6However, I welcome everyone to read https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/cyber-resi... and understand why CRA was created, what it tries to solve, and most importantly, why EU legislators INTENTIONALLY decided to make open-source part of the regulation.
Regarding the OSS more specifically: most EU businesses rely on open-source software in prod (Linux, Nginx, OpenJDK etc.). Vulns in the software including those in OSS amount to 5.5 trillion EUR losses every year [1] (edit: quite a wild projection, disputed, see the thread below). CRA wants to ensure that if a business (especially an SME w/o a dedicated itsec team) sees software online, which looks usable "in the course of a commercial activity" and receives regular releases, that its last release is reasonably free from known significant vulnerabilities.
Please note that https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2023/04/the-eus-proposed-cra-la... is no longer valid as amendments were made to specifically exclude PyPi, Git and other hosting platforms from any liability.
I also expect a positive outcome from all this. Companies (at least, in EU) will begin requiring their dependencies to be CRA-compliant some time in the future and it will open up a path for devs to get paid for the extra burden.
Finally, this is a wake-up call for all software developers to consider what needs to be changed in development practices before we can proudly call ourselves software ENGINEERS.
[1]: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/resource.html?uri=cellar:864f472b-...
Re: No cyber resilience without open source sustainability
#7Products aren’t commercial by themselves. Selling them is. Distributing the thing for free? Not commercial. Selling support? Commercial, you must provide guarantees even if upstream does not. Selling something that uses non-commercial FOSS software under the hood? Commercial again, even if upstream is not. Receiving donations? Shouldn’t matter as far as I can tell.
That being said, I can see donations being used as a loophole to bypass regulation. Maybe they’re trying to close that loophole.
Re: No cyber resilience without open source sustainability
#8This is very good that we have so many experts/vendors expressing their opinion (read: fears on how it will affect them). However, I welcome everyone to read https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/cyber-resi... and understand why CRA was created, what it tries to solve, and most importantly, why EU legislators INTENTIONALLY decided to make open-source part of the regulation. Regarding the OSS more specific…
Re: No cyber resilience without open source sustainability
#9This is very good that we have so many experts/vendors expressing their opinion (read: fears on how it will affect them). However, I welcome everyone to read https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/cyber-resi... and understand why CRA was created, what it tries to solve, and most importantly, why EU legislators INTENTIONALLY decided to make open-source part of the regulation. Regarding the OSS more specific…
So the EU loses over 30% of it's total GDP to security vulnerabilities? I somehow find that figure very suspect and using clearly exaggerated numbers as justification makes me distrust the whole premise of this legislation.
Re: No cyber resilience without open source sustainability
#10This is very good that we have so many experts/vendors expressing their opinion (read: fears on how it will affect them). However, I welcome everyone to read https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/cyber-resi... and understand why CRA was created, what it tries to solve, and most importantly, why EU legislators INTENTIONALLY decided to make open-source part of the regulation. Regarding the OSS more specific…
The thing is, being paid for an extra burden doesn't make it any less of an imposition on devs limited energy.
Basically, if you want to accept donations so people can show their appreciation for what you share freely with the world, you open yourself up to demands that you do work that you don't enjoy on a hobby. That's really shit.