Open Letter from Security Researchers in Relation to the Online Safety Bill [pdf]
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#2"As independent information security and cryptography researchers, we build technologies that keep people safe online. It is in this capacity that we see the need to stress that the safety provided by these essential technologies is now under threat in the Online Safety Bill."
Re: Open Letter from Security Researchers in Relation to the Online Safety Bill [pdf]
#3I think it's inevitable that at some point some legislation like the OSB will pass in most western countries.
It's going to drive the people who have the know how underground, and anyone engaging in protecting their privacy will be considered a criminal. We're already creeping toward that IMO.
Re: Open Letter from Security Researchers in Relation to the Online Safety Bill [pdf]
#4I think it's inevitable that at some point some legislation like the OSB will pass in most western countries. It's going to drive the people who have the know how underground, and anyone engaging in protecting their privacy will be considered a criminal. We're already creeping toward that IMO.
I think it's inevitable that at some point some legislation like the OSB will pass in most western countries.
It's going to be no different at all from the current situation.
Re: Open Letter from Security Researchers in Relation to the Online Safety Bill [pdf]
#5I think it's inevitable that at some point some legislation like the OSB will pass in most western countries. It's going to drive the people who have the know how underground, and anyone engaging in protecting their privacy will be considered a criminal. We're already creeping toward that IMO.
I think it's inevitable that at some point some legislation like the OSB will pass in most western countries. It's going to be no different at all from the current situation.
> It's going to be no different at all from the current situation.
That's not true at all. If OSB is passed, things will be quite different in the UK afterward.
Re: Open Letter from Security Researchers in Relation to the Online Safety Bill [pdf]
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's inevitable that at some point some legislation like the OSB will pass in most western countries. It's going to be no different at all from the current situation.
> It's going to be no different at all from the current situation. That's not true at all. If OSB is passed, things will be quite different in the UK afterward.
The snoopers charter already exists, ISPs already have to report your web browsing to the Government database.
For everything else there are foreign agencies who are not limited by uk legislation.
Re: Open Letter from Security Researchers in Relation to the Online Safety Bill [pdf]
#7I think it's inevitable that at some point some legislation like the OSB will pass in most western countries. It's going to drive the people who have the know how underground, and anyone engaging in protecting their privacy will be considered a criminal. We're already creeping toward that IMO.
I don't see why it is inevitable.
In fact, I very see the opposite. Passing this kind of legislation will kill e-commerce for sure, so it will never happen.
Re: Open Letter from Security Researchers in Relation to the Online Safety Bill [pdf]
#8I think it's inevitable that at some point some legislation like the OSB will pass in most western countries. It's going to drive the people who have the know how underground, and anyone engaging in protecting their privacy will be considered a criminal. We're already creeping toward that IMO.
I think it's inevitable that at some point some legislation like the OSB will pass in most western countries. It's going to be no different at all from the current situation.
What would happen in the ideal world:
- All online messenger providers (Whatsapp, Signal, Telegram) e.g. withdraw from the UK market. Meta and Google gave a taste for this after Canadian link law.
- UK needs to come up with a crappy homebrew messenger ecosystem no one uses. Maybe a messenger.gov.uk?
- People download applications with privacy and sideload them to their mobile phones, keep going with their business as usual
- The number of childs protected or caught pedophiles stays unchanged
- UK parliament members who proposed the bill will look like idiots, not getting re-elected
- The "compliance" companies who promoted these solutions, as it's driven by commercial interest that guides the political discussion, go bankcrupt
However I remain doubtful if we have this ideal scenario.
Re: Open Letter from Security Researchers in Relation to the Online Safety Bill [pdf]
#9I think it's inevitable that at some point some legislation like the OSB will pass in most western countries. It's going to drive the people who have the know how underground, and anyone engaging in protecting their privacy will be considered a criminal. We're already creeping toward that IMO.
I don't see why it is inevitable. In fact, I very see the opposite. Passing this kind of legislation will kill e-commerce for sure, so it will never happen.
kill; e-commerce, in store payment terminals, online banking, all https, email, biometric passports etc.
It would be a return to the pre internet era, so probably is the will of the people and on form for the UK. I kind of hope they pass it then realise what it actually means.
Re: Open Letter from Security Researchers in Relation to the Online Safety Bill [pdf]
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's going to be no different at all from the current situation. That's not true at all. If OSB is passed, things will be quite different in the UK afterward.
The snoopers charter already exists, ISPs already have to report your web browsing to the Government database. For everything else there are foreign agencies who are not limited by uk legislation.
The issue is that they can't defeat encryption currently, and wish to.
Encryption can hide web browsing and a lot more, which they don't like.