Learning needs to be effortful to be effective
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Learning needs to be effortful to be effective
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#2>effortful
He clearly wasn't effective in his English classes.
>edutainment is not learning
I learned more things from entertainment than any textbook or classroom ever taught me.
Also, his choice of font is a blight upon typography.
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#3>effortful He clearly wasn't effective in his English classes. >edutainment is not learning I learned more things from entertainment than any textbook or classroom ever taught me. Also, his choice of font is a blight upon typography.
> in his English classes
How's your italian?
(「ペンネ」wa, oishii desu ne?)
Edit: for that matter, effortful has become more cromulent than I would've guessed: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=effortful&year...
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#4>effortful He clearly wasn't effective in his English classes. >edutainment is not learning I learned more things from entertainment than any textbook or classroom ever taught me. Also, his choice of font is a blight upon typography.
effortful
adjective
showing or requiring effort
Re: Learning needs to be effortful to be effective
#5>effortful He clearly wasn't effective in his English classes. >edutainment is not learning I learned more things from entertainment than any textbook or classroom ever taught me. Also, his choice of font is a blight upon typography.
> I learned more things from entertainment than any textbook or classroom ever taught me.
It sounds like you should have probably paid more attention to your books, and in the classroom.
If you can't get much value out of subject matter experts condensing the salient points of a topic into a book, with accompanying exercises that require you to master those points to solve...
It probably means you didn't do the exercises. Do the exercises.
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#6>effortful He clearly wasn't effective in his English classes. >edutainment is not learning I learned more things from entertainment than any textbook or classroom ever taught me. Also, his choice of font is a blight upon typography.
Isn’t effortful an actual word? Also let’s try not to pick on things that are beside the point. Especially if you look at the author’s site and he’s a non-native speaker. We’d probably make similar mistakes if we were to try Italian.
On a tangential note, what does it mean to be “effective” in a class?
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#7As a child, I was able to simply read through things (history books, forum discussions about motors and cars, wiki.c2.com...) barely understanding them - but half way words would begin making sense. I could then reread the same things with understanding and keep reading through until bored - which seemingly implied understanding.
Nowadays, I need comprehensible input the whole time, hooks to actually understand what's going on. I'm not sure if it's an issue with brain plasticity or growing impatience, perhaps a learned discomfort of not understanding things. Perhaps the internet has since trained me to google things instead of stopping to think or just soldier through, learned helplessness resorting to the hivemind's omniscience if you will.
I suspect this refusal to engage with the material and just flee to the search is this very lack of effort, which has caused me to stagnate. Alas...
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#8>effortful He clearly wasn't effective in his English classes. >edutainment is not learning I learned more things from entertainment than any textbook or classroom ever taught me. Also, his choice of font is a blight upon typography.
> I learned more things from entertainment than any textbook or classroom ever taught me.
This statement is abstract enough that it can be both true and false depending on what one means when saying that. Can you be more specific? Have you watched movies and listening to music that gave you the skills to have the job or career you have? Did YouTube videos give you the knowledge to work in a scientific lab or start your own company?
Do you have any example?
There's a lot of educational content out there that's probably better to consume than dumb silly content, but skills and deep knowledge can only be acquired with practice, distraction-free studying, and similar activities.
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#9>effortful He clearly wasn't effective in his English classes. >edutainment is not learning I learned more things from entertainment than any textbook or classroom ever taught me. Also, his choice of font is a blight upon typography.
> I learned more things from entertainment than any textbook or classroom ever taught me. It sounds like you should have probably paid more attention to your books, and in the classroom. If you can't get much value out of subject matter experts condensing the salient points of a topic into a book, with accompanying exercises that require you to master those points to solve... It probably means you didn't do the exerc…
No, I'm serious when I say that formal education taught me nowhere near what the rest of life did.
Oregon Trail taught me more about American history than textbooks ever did, likewise Age of Empires II than textbooks ever did concerning medieval history. One of those Carmen Sandiego games did a better job teaching me English than any textbooks or classes ever did.
And god damn RPG Maker (read: computer programming) taught me more about math than any textbooks or classes ever did. To say nothing of all the games that demanded I learn how to do complex arithmetic in my head on the spot.
Looking back, the core lesson I took away is that you need to find the subject matter fun or meaningful to be able to learn it. No amount of "effort" is going to help if you simply don't, or worse can't, give a damn about the subject matter or the way it's presented.
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#10This was exactly what I realized lately. I was like the author (and still am to some extent) that I'd scratch an itch but only in a superficial way and then drop it when my energy could not hold.
These superficial learnings essentially become my escape from real world: family responsibility, work and others. I guess I need to grow up and somehow indulge myself with real life but heck I refuse to do that even at 40+.