A Quick Overview of Matrix
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A Quick Overview of Matrix
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Re: A Quick Overview of Matrix
#2The "bridges" really work well if you can host your own and "puppeteer" your account. I only use Element on my phone now and all whatsapp messages come through without issues.
I am also spending some time hacking around some terminal matrix client. I don't have to worry about some corporation pulling the rug.
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#3Does anyone else find it funny that the flagship SDK (JS) is largely undocumented? And that the UX of all clients in existence leaves a lot to be desired (yes, Element X is the best one but it lacks features for now)?
Matrix is annoyingly hard to get into, IMO. It has gotten better in the last years, but it isn't exactly good yet. It hurts because I want it to be good so that everyone can switch.
I plan to talk about this with the Element developers at CCCamp.
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#4One of the really nice features of Matrix is the IRC bridge to Libera Chat. Libera Chat is the current home of open source projects' community and support channels.
Earlier it was necessary to set up an IRC bouncer if you needed a persistent connection to the IRC server. But now you can just create an account on Matrix and join a Libera IRC channel from Matrix. The Matrix bridge functions like an IRC gateway on Matrix. It's a great way to stay logged into the IRC channels and ensure that you don't miss any messages when you are away.
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#5I'm beginning to doubt whether Matrix can actually succeed. It's a great idea, and there are great people involved, but there's just so many different problems/features that it's still lacking. And the progress is painstakingly slow. I really want them to succeed and I still try to get everyone on board and evangelize all my clients to join Matrix – but the truth is, I'm loosing hope.
Example: About a year ago, "Threads" went out of Beta and the feature is pretty much still unusable, because Notifications get stuck all the time. Even though there was a lot of progress to fix this – it's still not up to par with other Messengers.
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#6Very quick.
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#7I recommend to have a look at the "Matrix 2.0" presentation that happened at FOSDEM 2023 in February: https://fosdem.org/2023/schedule/event/matrix20/
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#8I'm beginning to doubt whether Matrix can actually succeed. It's a great idea, and there are great people involved, but there's just so many different problems/features that it's still lacking. And the progress is painstakingly slow. I really want them to succeed and I still try to get everyone on board and evangelize all my clients to join Matrix – but the truth is, I'm loosing hope. Example: About a year ago, "Thre…
This is roughly my feeling too.
I've been running my own home server for a while now, and talked a friend or two into doing the same. We use it daily and it is "good enough" for us, but I'd never try to sell it to somebody that isn't already interested.
Notifications seem get a little better, then get a little worse again, and then the cycle repeats. Unless I've watched the system notification come in, I just ignore it. Definitely not perfect. I've also managed to get into a state where it'll notify me about messages from days ago that are marked as read, and never clear without a logout.
I was really excited about the possibility of third party clients, but in general, they all have some big missing features and/or show stopping bugs.
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#9One of the really nice features of Matrix is the IRC bridge to Libera Chat. Libera Chat is the current home of open source projects' community and support channels. Earlier it was necessary to set up an IRC bouncer if you needed a persistent connection to the IRC server. But now you can just create an account on Matrix and join a Libera IRC channel from Matrix. The Matrix bridge functions like an IRC gateway on Matri…
Sadly, I think Matrix's bridge onto Libera might soon be curtailed - they've not been good neighbors for some time and it's eroding the usability of IRC for IRC natives. https://libera.chat/news/matrix-irc-bridge-updates
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#10One of the really nice features of Matrix is the IRC bridge to Libera Chat. Libera Chat is the current home of open source projects' community and support channels. Earlier it was necessary to set up an IRC bouncer if you needed a persistent connection to the IRC server. But now you can just create an account on Matrix and join a Libera IRC channel from Matrix. The Matrix bridge functions like an IRC gateway on Matri…
Sadly, I think Matrix's bridge onto Libera might soon be curtailed - they've not been good neighbors for some time and it's eroding the usability of IRC for IRC natives. https://libera.chat/news/matrix-irc-bridge-updates
On the Matrix side, we've put a lot of effort into being good neighbours, fwiw - e.g. recently this massive refactor at https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/pull/166... to allow the matrixirc bridge to be restarted without reconnecting all its IRC users (the single biggest complaint we ever had about the bridge in terms of eroding usability of IRC for IRC natives).
Sadly it looks like it wasn't considered sufficient, based on https://libera.chat/news/matrix-deportalling.