Tesla Fleet Telemetry
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Tesla Fleet Telemetry
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Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#2> Tesla strongly encourages providers to only collect data they need, limited to frequency that they need.
If only...
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#3> Tesla strongly encourages providers to only collect data they need, limited to frequency that they need. If only...
The problem with data is that they can often reveal information you need, but didn't even know you need.
The way I understand Tesla's meaning of "data they need" is the data that you know exists, know is useful, and has a predefined purpose. However, blind data mining can often bring insight that may give you an edge over competition, so the unethical data collectors have an advantage.
On the other hand, collecting all available data makes you biased by the particular nature of data collected - not everthing that is measurable is important, and not everything that's important is measurable. Even 100% accurate data can lead you astray if it gives you an incomplete picture. That's how we got algorithms that optimize outrage, because outrage and stress create massive engagement.
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#4>At Tesla we believe that security and privacy are core tenets of any modern technology. Customers should be able to decide what data they share with third parties, how they share it, and when it can be shared. We've developed a decentralized framework: "Fleet Telemetry" that allows customers to create a secure and direct bridge from their Tesla devices to any provider they authorize.
Complete non-sequitur.
“We care about your privacy”
“Here’s a way to share private information with others”
Also, un-stated “there ain’t nothing you can do about sharing your private data with us”
Cool that they give you a way to access some of your data at all though, I guess
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#5> Tesla strongly encourages providers to only collect data they need, limited to frequency that they need. If only...
The problem with data is that they can often reveal information you need , but didn't even know you need. The way I understand Tesla's meaning of "data they need" is the data that you know exists, know is useful, and has a predefined purpose. However, blind data mining can often bring insight that may give you an edge over competition, so the unethical data collectors have an advantage. On the other hand, collecting…
Then you get the weird software engineers that are very defensive of spying on their users lol.
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#6>At Tesla we believe that security and privacy are core tenets of any modern technology. Customers should be able to decide what data they share with third parties, how they share it, and when it can be shared. We've developed a decentralized framework: "Fleet Telemetry" that allows customers to create a secure and direct bridge from their Tesla devices to any provider they authorize. Complete non-sequitur. “We care…
> “there ain’t nothing you can do about sharing your private data with us”
FWIW there are settings in the car to disable certain things. Not sure how much it _actually_ disables though.
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#7>At Tesla we believe that security and privacy are core tenets of any modern technology. Customers should be able to decide what data they share with third parties, how they share it, and when it can be shared. We've developed a decentralized framework: "Fleet Telemetry" that allows customers to create a secure and direct bridge from their Tesla devices to any provider they authorize. Complete non-sequitur. “We care…
>“there ain’t nothing you can do about sharing your private data with us”
You can turn off lots of data sharing and monitoring settings in the standard UI in the car, last I looked it wasn't even hidden behind any dark patterns.
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#8Seems like the idea here is to provide a public API for third party integrations, which currently use a private API.
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#9> Tesla strongly encourages providers to only collect data they need, limited to frequency that they need. If only...
The problem with data is that they can often reveal information you need , but didn't even know you need. The way I understand Tesla's meaning of "data they need" is the data that you know exists, know is useful, and has a predefined purpose. However, blind data mining can often bring insight that may give you an edge over competition, so the unethical data collectors have an advantage. On the other hand, collecting…
> That's how we got algorithms that optimize outrage, because outrage and stress create massive engagement.
I mean, in this case, it's not a "problem", it's a predetermined goal. It's not some sort of accident that they optimize for engagement, it's explicitly what they want to optimize for. The fact that it causes harmful interaction isn't an unwanted side effect, at least for the social media company, but a means to an end.
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#10>At Tesla we believe that security and privacy are core tenets of any modern technology. Customers should be able to decide what data they share with third parties, how they share it, and when it can be shared. We've developed a decentralized framework: "Fleet Telemetry" that allows customers to create a secure and direct bridge from their Tesla devices to any provider they authorize. Complete non-sequitur. “We care…
Privacy isn't "no one can know anything about me, ever, even if it is my choice to tell them". By this logic you are violating your own privacy when you introduce yourself to someone with your name.
The actual concept of privacy is entirely in line with their idea that you "should be able to decide what data [you] share with third parties, how [you] share it, and when it can be shared"