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Yevgeny Prigozhin: Wagner chief blames war on defence minister

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Re: Yevgeny Prigozhin: Wagner chief blames war on defence minister

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Post by simmerup »

wrp wrote: post #2

Just so you appreciate how weird this is, my understanding is that Sergei Shoigu is possibly the least hawkish major figure in the Kremlin. I got the impression leading up to the invasion that Shoigu was the one who most wanted to continue diplomatic efforts.

Probably an easy scape goat then if he was the black sheep of the kremlin.

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Post by wrp »

simmerup wrote: post #3
wrp wrote: post #2

Just so you appreciate how weird this is, my understanding is that Sergei Shoigu is possibly the least hawkish major figure in the Kremlin. I got the impression leading up to the invasion that Shoigu was the one who most wanted to continue diplomatic efforts.

Probably an easy scape goat then if he was the black sheep of the kremlin.

Now you raise that perspective, I'm reminded that Shoigu rose to his current high position because of his success in cracking down on corruption in government departments. I read he made a lot of enemies.

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

wrp wrote: post #2

Just so you appreciate how weird this is, my understanding is that Sergei Shoigu is possibly the least hawkish major figure in the Kremlin. I got the impression leading up to the invasion that Shoigu was the one who most wanted to continue diplomatic efforts.

Probably because a real war would expose the sheer amount of graft and theft him and his cronies had accomplished over the years. Peace would have ensured that no one even knows that the munitions depots are empty and the equipment never maintained.

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Post by Idiot_in_Vain »

wrp wrote: post #4
simmerup wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably an easy scape goat then if he was the black sheep of the kremlin.

Now you raise that perspective, I'm reminded that Shoigu rose to his current high position because of his success in cracking down on corruption in government departments. I read he made a lot of enemies.

No way. No one rose in Putin Russia because of cracking down on corruption - it's the life blood of the regime.

For a long time Shouigu was a minister of emergencies and had very good PR strategy - there were always TV crews following his every move, that were paid from his ministry budget.

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