San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess with her firetrucks
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Re: San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess with her firetrucks
#2It appears these robotaxis need an emergency button similar to the ones on industrial robots. But instead of completely stopping, a remote operator immediately takes over and bugs out. Meanwhile, the AI can take a backseat and observe how to respond in a situation like this. Because obviously they don't have enough training when dealing with emergency situations.
Re: San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess with her firetrucks
#3A family member was a NY fire fighter many years ago. The Soviets had a lot of people at the UN, and they had diplomatic plates. They would park wherever they wanted, often blocking things. There was nothing the police could do.
The fire chief decided to have fire drills. Whenever a cop saw a car with diplomatic plates parked in front of a hydrant, they would call the fire department, who would come out and perform a drill. Upon seeing the vehicle blocking the hydrant, they would practice breaching through the vehicle to attain access to the hydrant. The vehicle would not survive in a drivable state.
The Soviets complained, but stopped blocking fire accesses.
EDIT: the firechief could solve this by putting truck or police cruiser style bullbars on their vehicles and "carefully nudging" the miscreant vehicles out the the way.
Re: San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess with her firetrucks
#4It appears these robotaxis need an emergency button similar to the ones on industrial robots. But instead of completely stopping, a remote operator immediately takes over and bugs out. Meanwhile, the AI can take a backseat and observe how to respond in a situation like this. Because obviously they don't have enough training when dealing with emergency situations.
The article mentions that employees can take remote control over the cars but sometimes that’s not enough to fix the issue.
Re: San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess with her firetrucks
#5AI training data doesn't include public safety scenarios is malpractice at minimum. This is nuts.
There is sufficient evidence that these are not ready for prime time.
Re: San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess with her firetrucks
#6It appears these robotaxis need an emergency button similar to the ones on industrial robots. But instead of completely stopping, a remote operator immediately takes over and bugs out. Meanwhile, the AI can take a backseat and observe how to respond in a situation like this. Because obviously they don't have enough training when dealing with emergency situations.
I think in case of an emergency the doors of the car should get unlocked and someone nearby should overtake
Re: San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess with her firetrucks
#7Most countries have penalty points on driving license. If some driver is violating traffic rules too often, they should lose driving license! Self driving cars should not have an exception!
Re: San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess with her firetrucks
#8It appears these robotaxis need an emergency button similar to the ones on industrial robots. But instead of completely stopping, a remote operator immediately takes over and bugs out. Meanwhile, the AI can take a backseat and observe how to respond in a situation like this. Because obviously they don't have enough training when dealing with emergency situations.
I think in case of an emergency the doors of the car should get unlocked and someone nearby should overtake
That's a good way to make carjacking easy.
Re: San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess with her firetrucks
#9It appears these robotaxis need an emergency button similar to the ones on industrial robots. But instead of completely stopping, a remote operator immediately takes over and bugs out. Meanwhile, the AI can take a backseat and observe how to respond in a situation like this. Because obviously they don't have enough training when dealing with emergency situations.
I think in case of an emergency the doors of the car should get unlocked and someone nearby should overtake
I feel like you could have some sort of standard handle on the front of a robotaxi to lead it around.
Re: San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess with her firetrucks
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think in case of an emergency the doors of the car should get unlocked and someone nearby should overtake
That's a good way to make carjacking easy.
Kia and Hyundai have already made that trivial the past few years. At least with the tender to their provider and GPS the robot taxis should be recoverable and disableable.