French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists
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Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists
#2this article miss a whole part of the story. among other things, these person came back from a warzone. looks at https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_du_8_décembre_2020
Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists
#3English version of the article doesn't mention uBlock Origin at all
https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2023/06/05/criminalization-o...
Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists
#4English version of the article doesn't mention uBlock Origin at all https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2023/06/05/criminalization-o...
The French version (readable with a translation extension) does, but it's just one of a long list of things including GrapheneOS, LineageOS, Jitsi, FDroid, Tor, RiseupVPN, etc.
Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists
#5this article miss a whole part of the story. among other things, these person came back from a warzone. looks at https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_du_8_décembre_2020
Very interesting; it looks like these people went to Syria to fight ISIS, and got this ill treatment when they returned.
Why does it seem like the French government is always supporting the worst actors in any conflict? ISIS is (was) so evil and barbaric, they make Putin seem like a great guy. Why would volunteering to fight them ever be seen in a bad light?
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#6The key is that, while there is suspicion (the people arrested have a far left ideology, have been to Syria to fight against the Islamic state, own weapons and encrypt all of their communications), there is no crime nor proof of an intent to commit a crime.
These people have been sent to prison because they are suspicious, not because of an action they have done (something made possible as a special case of an older antiterrorism law). And, amongst other things, using Signal and Linux with the encryption-on settings are explicitly listed as some of the things making them suspicious in the eyes of the law.
That is a slippery slope.
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#7Oh dear, they used to be able to monitor everything through alcatel backdoors.
I guess they lost that ability now, and are trying to criminalize private communication.
Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists
#8this article miss a whole part of the story. among other things, these person came back from a warzone. looks at https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_du_8_décembre_2020
Very interesting; it looks like these people went to Syria to fight ISIS, and got this ill treatment when they returned. Why does it seem like the French government is always supporting the worst actors in any conflict? ISIS is (was) so evil and barbaric, they make Putin seem like a great guy. Why would volunteering to fight them ever be seen in a bad light?
The monopoly on violence is the central component of the power of the state. This case undermines that power as much as violence used in self defence does, and is being prosecuted as passionately as self defence killings often are.
Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists
#9We should ask Signal users to prove the negative, or less be deemed guilty and subject to sanctioning.
Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists
#10"radioactive materials can be used to make bombs, let's ban them altogether"
"knifes can be used to stab people, let's ban them altogether"
"cleaning supplies can be used to poison people, let's ban them altogether"
#logik
also, potential = guilty until proven innocent