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Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo

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Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo

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This makes me think of the search for the USS Thresher, a US Navy submarine. After the sub sank, the Seawolf was one of the Navy ships that went looking for it. Sonar operators on the Seawolf heard what they thought were manually operated SOS signals, banging of metal on metal, and eventually something resembling a voice. While these reports have started some conspiracy theories, the sonar readings from the initial sinking and wreckage indicates the Thresher imploded near instantly at depth, which would be unsurvivable for any amount of time.

Honestly the chance of anyone being alive in the Titan is about as close to zero as you get; these rescuers want so badly to save them that they're hearing what they want to.

I hope I'm wrong though.

https://m.soundcloud.com/user-798629330/episode-261-the-uss-...

https://youtu.be/4dka29FSZac

Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo

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Wow, this is the worst possible situation, if true. They're likely to run out of breathable air long before they can be rescued. I'm hoping they make it out but, I personally would have opted for an implosion if I was in the same situation. The suffering they're enduring, if actually alive, is pretty rare.

I can't imagine what is potentially going through their heads. If they are alive the 8 hour delay from Oceangate on reporting the incident to the USCG is likely going to result in massive liability, possibly criminal. Deep Sea rescues are extremely improbable and minutes matter let alone hours.

I have a hard time believing that this report is accurate but, it's possible. My best friend works at the lab that tests and certifies deep sea vessels for the navy, manned and unmanned, and he's 99% sure they're already gone due to an implosion. He actually was involved in the testing of one of their prototypes so has a pretty intimate knowledge of their construction. Cyclical fatigue on the carbon fiber hull is the likely culprit if such was their fate.

Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo

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Wow, this is the worst possible situation, if true. They're likely to run out of breathable air long before they can be rescued. I'm hoping they make it out but, I personally would have opted for an implosion if I was in the same situation. The suffering they're enduring, if actually alive, is pretty rare. I can't imagine what is potentially going through their heads. If they are alive the 8 hour delay from Oceangate…

Being in an enclosed space, knowing no one else can hear you, surrounded by people probably having a panic attack, at the bottom of the ocean in total darkness while you are slowly noticing the air getting harder and harder to breathe… yeah I would’ve taken the hull imploding over 80-something hours of that.

One guy is down there with his 19yo son… empathy is a powerful thing, imagining that situation just makes my heart sink.

Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo

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post #4

Wow, this is the worst possible situation, if true. They're likely to run out of breathable air long before they can be rescued. I'm hoping they make it out but, I personally would have opted for an implosion if I was in the same situation. The suffering they're enduring, if actually alive, is pretty rare. I can't imagine what is potentially going through their heads. If they are alive the 8 hour delay from Oceangate…

Being in an enclosed space, knowing no one else can hear you, surrounded by people probably having a panic attack, at the bottom of the ocean in total darkness while you are slowly noticing the air getting harder and harder to breathe… yeah I would’ve taken the hull imploding over 80-something hours of that. One guy is down there with his 19yo son… empathy is a powerful thing, imagining that situation just makes my h…

It is also close to freezing temperatures

Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo

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post #4

Wow, this is the worst possible situation, if true. They're likely to run out of breathable air long before they can be rescued. I'm hoping they make it out but, I personally would have opted for an implosion if I was in the same situation. The suffering they're enduring, if actually alive, is pretty rare. I can't imagine what is potentially going through their heads. If they are alive the 8 hour delay from Oceangate…

Being in an enclosed space, knowing no one else can hear you, surrounded by people probably having a panic attack, at the bottom of the ocean in total darkness while you are slowly noticing the air getting harder and harder to breathe… yeah I would’ve taken the hull imploding over 80-something hours of that. One guy is down there with his 19yo son… empathy is a powerful thing, imagining that situation just makes my h…

> Being in an enclosed space, knowing no one else can hear you, surrounded by people probably having a panic attack, at the bottom of the ocean in total darkness while you are slowly noticing the air getting harder and harder to breathe…

I had an old guy tell me about why he was claustrophobic once. Closed doors and the dark were a challenge.

He got depth charged in a submarine during WWII. The lights got blown out, water was coming in etc.

Everyone survived but it had a marked effect on him.

Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo

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This makes me think of the search for the USS Thresher, a US Navy submarine. After the sub sank, the Seawolf was one of the Navy ships that went looking for it. Sonar operators on the Seawolf heard what they thought were manually operated SOS signals, banging of metal on metal, and eventually something resembling a voice. While these reports have started some conspiracy theories, the sonar readings from the initial s…

The last section of this article "Update, July 15" addresses those points about the Thresher tragedy: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/41523/uss-threshers-cr...

Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo

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Wow, this is the worst possible situation, if true. They're likely to run out of breathable air long before they can be rescued. I'm hoping they make it out but, I personally would have opted for an implosion if I was in the same situation. The suffering they're enduring, if actually alive, is pretty rare. I can't imagine what is potentially going through their heads. If they are alive the 8 hour delay from Oceangate…

They have another ~30 hours of air.

The biggest hope is that they are not terribly deep trapped near the surface and can be located in that time.

Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo

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post #9

Wow, this is the worst possible situation, if true. They're likely to run out of breathable air long before they can be rescued. I'm hoping they make it out but, I personally would have opted for an implosion if I was in the same situation. The suffering they're enduring, if actually alive, is pretty rare. I can't imagine what is potentially going through their heads. If they are alive the 8 hour delay from Oceangate…

They have another ~30 hours of air. The biggest hope is that they are not terribly deep trapped near the surface and can be located in that time.

How could they be trapped "near" the surface? That would require the sub to maintain buoyancy precisely, which seems unlikely without active systems.
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