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How Dowries Are Fuelling a Femicide Epidemic

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Re: How Dowries Are Fuelling a Femicide Epidemic

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Dowries are a plague on humanity. They’re rooted in the idea that women are property.

I lived in India in the 1970s as a child. At that time the shorthand was “cooking accident” when new brides were killed. As in, “The bride’s father couldn’t pay the dowry. Too bad she had that unfortunate cooking accident.”

The local man who did our laundry had four daughters, and it was considered a curse. He killed himself because he couldn’t pay their dowries, and he knew he’s spend the rest of his life in shame with daughters who were spinsters, or dead.

Re: How Dowries Are Fuelling a Femicide Epidemic

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I was reading about dowery/dower/brideprices in the past week, mostly on wikipedia but chased a few links. There is a very interesting hypothesis about the origins of these practices in prehistoric human cultures.

in hoe-based agriculture, which tended to predominate in mobile/migratory cultures, farming was "women's work"

in plough-based agriculture, which tended to predominate where people were stationary and land was "owned", farming was "men's work"

Where women did agricultural work, a brideprice was paid, as per the theory, because a women's productive output was valuable.

Where men did agricultural work, a bride was expected to bring a dowery, paid as a transfer from her family's land-based wealth.

I find it interesting how very rough "logic" from many thousand years ago would continue to affect us today.

Re: How Dowries Are Fuelling a Femicide Epidemic

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Dowries are a plague on humanity. They’re rooted in the idea that women are property. I lived in India in the 1970s as a child. At that time the shorthand was “cooking accident” when new brides were killed. As in, “The bride’s father couldn’t pay the dowry. Too bad she had that unfortunate cooking accident.” The local man who did our laundry had four daughters, and it was considered a curse. He killed himself because…

Awful, all of it.

Re: How Dowries Are Fuelling a Femicide Epidemic

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Dowries are a plague on humanity. They’re rooted in the idea that women are property. I lived in India in the 1970s as a child. At that time the shorthand was “cooking accident” when new brides were killed. As in, “The bride’s father couldn’t pay the dowry. Too bad she had that unfortunate cooking accident.” The local man who did our laundry had four daughters, and it was considered a curse. He killed himself because…

> spend the rest of his life in shame with daughters who were spinsters

Perspective is a hell of a thing.

Re: How Dowries Are Fuelling a Femicide Epidemic

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post #5

I was reading about dowery/dower/brideprices in the past week, mostly on wikipedia but chased a few links. There is a very interesting hypothesis about the origins of these practices in prehistoric human cultures. in hoe-based agriculture, which tended to predominate in mobile/migratory cultures, farming was "women's work" in plough-based agriculture, which tended to predominate where people were stationary and land…

Standard religious practice.

In the US, it has a huge impact on our politics. Other nations have their own issues with religion, as in India.

Also, as any engineer can attest, “We’ve always done it this way” is quite powerful.

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