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Why I'm Leaving Elm (2020)

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Re: Why I'm Leaving Elm (2020)

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why do these elm hit pieces keep getting dug up and reposted? It's almost always in response to some other elm post (there was one yesterday). People use elm in production at quite a few companies without worrying too much about the concerns laid out in the article, but it feels like people seem almost fervent in their need to justify their reason for leaving elm and why other people shouldn't use elm.

Re: Why I'm Leaving Elm (2020)

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Ah, another “why I’m leaving X” post, I’ve never seen these kinds of posts as particularly fruitful regardless of the language they go on about. Engineers can assess the pros and cons of a technology for themselves based on their needs, and usually these kinds of posts don’t have the relevance their authors wish they would. I think they serve more as emotional catharsis (or worse) than actually meaningful content (most of the time).

Re: Why I'm Leaving Elm (2020)

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> they need to think of themselves as stewards and not owners.

This is an important idea that a lot don't seem to get.

Of cource, if you're in (US) business, the norm is to be an owner, often with a PR veneer of steward or faux folksiness, and most savvy people understand that.

(Junior engineers are to be forgiven for not yet understanding that the megacorp or aspiring techbro-ionaire is often trying to trick the kids to get into the back of the ice cream truck of vendor lock-in.)

But in many other contexts, people rightly expect steward. Including in many ostensibly community projects, in which there are very different reasonable expectations.

Re: Why I'm Leaving Elm (2020)

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post #8

Ah, another “why I’m leaving X” post, I’ve never seen these kinds of posts as particularly fruitful regardless of the language they go on about. Engineers can assess the pros and cons of a technology for themselves based on their needs, and usually these kinds of posts don’t have the relevance their authors wish they would. I think they serve more as emotional catharsis (or worse) than actually meaningful content (mo…

This sort of feedback is just difficult for people to consume in a mature way. Many get defensive or weaponize it. Language design is hard to critique since it becomes so abstract making most comments superficial. But people in this situation often have some actual knowledge. The other situation is when the language devs actually listen to some of the feedback.
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