SwiftData

#1

Post by koinedad » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 4:33 PM UTC

SwiftData
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Re: SwiftData

#2

Post by tifa2up » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 4:52 PM UTC

Noob here, how does SwiftData compare to Redux (as a paradigm)?

Re: SwiftData

#3

Post by jahewson » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 5:00 PM UTC

tifa2up wrote: post #2

Noob here, how does SwiftData compare to Redux (as a paradigm)?

Looks pretty different. Much closer to more modern state management approaches such as Recoil and Jotai.

Re: SwiftData

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Post by RandallBrown » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 5:05 PM UTC

tifa2up wrote: post #2

Noob here, how does SwiftData compare to Redux (as a paradigm)?

It's not really comparable.

SwiftData is the Swift version of Apple's CoreData, which is pretty much a database ORM.

It's a massive improvement on the old APIs that were written decades ago for Obj-C.

Re: SwiftData

#5

Post by trinix912 » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 5:05 PM UTC

It’d be interesting to see a performance comparison of SwiftData vs. (objc?) CoreData vs. plain XML for large datasets. I recall plain XMLs being faster than CoreData a few years ago in certain scenarios.

Re: SwiftData

#6

Post by _trackno5 » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 5:06 PM UTC

jahewson wrote: post #3

tifa2up wrote: post #2

Noob here, how does SwiftData compare to Redux (as a paradigm)?

Looks pretty different. Much closer to more modern state management approaches such as Recoil and Jotai.

I don't get what you're saying here.

Swift Data is just a framework to annotate data structures to be stored by Core Data.

It looks a lot like an ORM.

Re: SwiftData

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Post by akmarinov » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 5:09 PM UTC

trinix912 wrote: post #5

It’d be interesting to see a performance comparison of SwiftData vs. (objc?) CoreData vs. plain XML for large datasets. I recall plain XMLs being faster than CoreData a few years ago in certain scenarios.

Isn't SwiftData mostly a wrapper around CoreData?

Re: SwiftData

#8

Post by koinedad » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 5:10 PM UTC

akmarinov wrote: post #7

trinix912 wrote: post #5

It’d be interesting to see a performance comparison of SwiftData vs. (objc?) CoreData vs. plain XML for large datasets. I recall plain XMLs being faster than CoreData a few years ago in certain scenarios.

Isn't SwiftData mostly a wrapper around CoreData?

Most definitely

Re: SwiftData

#9

Post by zyang » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 5:11 PM UTC

Is this a ground up rewrite or just varnish over CoreData.

Re: SwiftData

#10

Post by koinedad » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 5:12 PM UTC

I’m actually really looking forward to this. I tried building a few apps in 100% SwiftUI coming from React/Node.js and it was a pretty major pain. I also don’t know UIKit so I couldn't easily fallback.